Talib and Manningham Admit Marijuana Use; Draft Status Affected?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

If you smoke pot on a regular basis or even a semi-regular basis, in my opinion, you're a bad-character guy and have no place on the team (I'll take the Joe Gibbs school of thought anyday). Only exception would be if you're an absolutely unbelievable talent like a Calvin Johnson.

If you admit to smoking pot, but indicate that it's a one-time thing, I'm still going to red-flag you. I wouldn't rule out drafting you, but I'd insist on doing a lot more homework on you. I'd be talking with your high school coaches, the parents of your high school friends, your college coaches, your parents, everybody.

And that my friends, is why Schneed will never be a scout in the NFL.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

And that my friends, is why Schneed will never be a scout in the NFL.

Why? What he's saying is what any NFL scout would do. Bottom line for a scout is "are you providing a complete picture to the Personnel Director". Any illegal drug use needs to be considered. Players that get popped for drugs aren't on the field and are costing the team $$$. Not only in cap $$$ that could be used elsewhere if they are suspended, but in negative pub. When that happens where does the finger get pointed....to the Personnel Dept.

I don't think if a guy has "isolated incidents" that those are the single factor for not bringing a guy in, but the talent level better be well worth the risk. And if you have a few "isolated incidents" that's a trend.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

And that my friends, is why Schneed will never be a scout in the NFL.

I think you're having a hard time separating the issues here.

On one hand, some in this thread are tending to slant their arguments towards the idea that weed is no big deal, it won't affect performance, you can still work hard and smoke weed, ETC. Maybe so, maybe not, but that's not the friggin point.

The point is weed is illegal (I don't care whether it should be or not, again, not the point). It will get you suspended from the league if you test positive for it or are caught by the police possessing it. So guys who smoke it have an increased chance of missing games.

I mean isn't that the same thing as drafting a brittle player? Whether they smoke up or tend to get hurt, either way, they're a risk to be unavailable. If they might not be able to get on the field, why would I want them?

I happen to think my approach puts me a lot closer to the mindset of a real NFL scout than yours does. This is not a place to argue whether weed inhibits performance, or reflects upon character, or whether weed should be legal. It's cut and dry: you can get suspended for it. If that rule changes, then I'd change my thinking on it. But as long as that rule's in place, it seems pretty simple to me.

[DGreene28]

This current skins FO proved they would take a chance on a player who dropped becasue of marijuana concerns drafting Fred Smoot in the 2nd round of the 2001 draft. He's been clean as a whistle with the skins...

[PSUSkinsFan21]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I think you're having a hard time separating the issues here.

On one hand, some in this thread are tending to slant their arguments towards the idea that weed is no big deal, it won't affect performance, you can still work hard and smoke weed, ETC. Maybe so, maybe not, but that's not the friggin point.

The point is weed is illegal (I don't care whether it should be or not, again, not the point). It will get you suspended from the league if you test positive for it or are caught by the police possessing it. So guys who smoke it have an increased chance of missing games.

I mean isn't that the same thing as drafting a brittle player? Whether they smoke up or tend to get hurt, either way, they're a risk to be unavailable. If they might not be able to get on the field, why would I want them?

I happen to think my approach puts me a lot closer to the mindset of a real NFL scout than yours does. This is not a place to argue whether weed inhibits performance, or reflects upon character, or whether weed should be legal. It's cut and dry: you can get suspended for it. If that rule changes, then I'd change my thinking on it. But as long as that rule's in place, it seems pretty simple to me.

Schneed, you are absolutely right. That said, I bet it still won't register.