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Gmanc711 · 03-23-2004, 11:20 PM

Theres no way someone takes D'Angelo Hall over Sean Taylor.

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-23-2004, 11:50 PM

anyone know why his stock would have dropped roughly 7 spots so quickly? is this mock draft on talent alone or both needs and talent? and I like 3D (D'angelo Hall) but I can't believe he suddenly went from around a late 1st to 2nd round pick all the way up to 7th. plus that scenario with Atlanta sounds scary to me. Imagine Vick having to highclass WR's in Price and Williams? atleast we only have to play them in the preseason and possibly the playoffs.
I think this mock draft is kinda jacked up cuz if we aren't taking winslow or Taylor we have to trade down and get more picks and hopefully udeze. by the way does anyone have any stats and info on udeze?

skinsfanthru&thru · 03-23-2004, 11:53 PM

plus Rivers as the prodige of Favre? thats a pretty awesome pairing and how much stronger could New England be with a monster in the making RB like Jones? I don't know how many agree but I think this is one of the strongest overall drafts, atleast the first 2-3 rounds, in recent memory.

SmootSmack · 03-24-2004, 01:39 AM

I agree that this draft is really deep...I think they're saying Taylor's stock is dropping based on his recent poor workout (which I think someone brought up in another thread)

Ghost · 03-24-2004, 01:59 AM

This draft could go in a lot of different ways ... it's all speculation until some of these players have their private workouts. I'd be happy with Wilfork or Udeze. I'd be stunned if Taylor fell to #12 but if his stock is really falling then Winslow might be the choice. I don't think the Skins will have a lot of success moving down because few teams will be willing to part with 2nd or 3rd round picks in a deep draft. GMs are getting stingier with those picks. The more I think about it, the more I like Wilfork, who reminds me a little of Dave Butz.

offiss · 03-24-2004, 03:34 AM

I really haven't seen tommy harris play, but I have seen some highlights of him recently, I can't believe how fast the guy is for his size, he look's like a real athletic as well, but from what I have heard every time he ran into a big time lineman he disapeared, I believe he played tackle in college but this kid look's like a serious end if you ask me, perhap's his speed was nutralized playing inside, it's much easier to control a player when they don't have the room to take an outside rush, the profile I saw was comparing him to reggie white, they looked fairly similar in body type, I think harris was a little faster but I doubt he is as strong as white, still it made me wonder 2 thing's, 1 if my assesment is right about his pass rushing ability why wasen't he used that way in college to maximize his talent's? and 2 if he is comparable to white regardless of inside or outside he still should have produced against the best in the country, I would like to see more footage of him to really gauge him but I will probably have to wait till draft day. Are there any harris fan's out there who can shed some light as far as his production against big time guards? as well as his possible switch to end?

dieselhog · 03-24-2004, 06:10 AM

I think we will take Taylor. Winslow seems like an ego waiting to happen.

Yankskins · 03-24-2004, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

by the way does anyone have any stats and info on udeze?

Kenchi Udeze is like 6'3", 280, runs a 4.75 40, a junior, and had 16 1/2 sacks this season. In the Rose bowl though, he had 3 sacks against Michigan. But he also can play the run, which is important for our defense. He is far and away the number 1 scout for DE's.

Tommi Harris is 6'3" 288, and runs a 4.95. He's real quick and can tackle well, but he is criticized because he doesn't always hustle. And he doesn't have the size of a big d-lineman to plug two gaps. In fact,Kenechi is almost as big as he is, and much faster.

I agree that Winslow is two much of an ego. He's got amazing hands, but he's so small (6-4 251) that he really just doesn't fit into Joe Gibbs system.

Sean Taylor is another good option (6-3 220, runs a 4.4 40) but I think our more pressing needs are upfront, and a high impact dlineman would help us in the short term and (because Kenechi is young and coachable) in the long term as well.

SmootSmack · 03-24-2004, 05:38 PM

Interestingly enough, Sportsline.com also has the Skins taking Harris

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7203264

03-24-2004, 01:39 AM	#4
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I agree that this draft is really deep...I think they're saying Taylor's stock is dropping based on his recent poor workout (which I think someone brought up in another thread) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-24-2004, 05:38 PM	#9
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Interestingly enough, Sportsline.com also has the Skins taking Harris http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7203264 __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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03-23-2004, 11:20 PM	#1
Gmanc711 Thank You, Sean. Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Gaithersburg, MD Age: 40 Posts: 7,506	Theres no way someone takes D'Angelo Hall over Sean Taylor. __________________ #21

03-23-2004, 11:50 PM	#2
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 46 Posts: 3,815	anyone know why his stock would have dropped roughly 7 spots so quickly? is this mock draft on talent alone or both needs and talent? and I like 3D (D'angelo Hall) but I can't believe he suddenly went from around a late 1st to 2nd round pick all the way up to 7th. plus that scenario with Atlanta sounds scary to me. Imagine Vick having to highclass WR's in Price and Williams? atleast we only have to play them in the preseason and possibly the playoffs. I think this mock draft is kinda jacked up cuz if we aren't taking winslow or Taylor we have to trade down and get more picks and hopefully udeze. by the way does anyone have any stats and info on udeze?

03-23-2004, 11:53 PM	#3
skinsfanthru&thru Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 46 Posts: 3,815	plus Rivers as the prodige of Favre? thats a pretty awesome pairing and how much stronger could New England be with a monster in the making RB like Jones? I don't know how many agree but I think this is one of the strongest overall drafts, atleast the first 2-3 rounds, in recent memory.

03-24-2004, 01:59 AM	#5
Ghost Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 298	This draft could go in a lot of different ways ... it's all speculation until some of these players have their private workouts. I'd be happy with Wilfork or Udeze. I'd be stunned if Taylor fell to #12 but if his stock is really falling then Winslow might be the choice. I don't think the Skins will have a lot of success moving down because few teams will be willing to part with 2nd or 3rd round picks in a deep draft. GMs are getting stingier with those picks. The more I think about it, the more I like Wilfork, who reminds me a little of Dave Butz.

03-24-2004, 03:34 AM	#6
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 62 Posts: 3,097	I really haven't seen tommy harris play, but I have seen some highlights of him recently, I can't believe how fast the guy is for his size, he look's like a real athletic as well, but from what I have heard every time he ran into a big time lineman he disapeared, I believe he played tackle in college but this kid look's like a serious end if you ask me, perhap's his speed was nutralized playing inside, it's much easier to control a player when they don't have the room to take an outside rush, the profile I saw was comparing him to reggie white, they looked fairly similar in body type, I think harris was a little faster but I doubt he is as strong as white, still it made me wonder 2 thing's, 1 if my assesment is right about his pass rushing ability why wasen't he used that way in college to maximize his talent's? and 2 if he is comparable to white regardless of inside or outside he still should have produced against the best in the country, I would like to see more footage of him to really gauge him but I will probably have to wait till draft day. Are there any harris fan's out there who can shed some light as far as his production against big time guards? as well as his possible switch to end?

03-24-2004, 06:10 AM	#7
dieselhog Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bolton, Lancashire Age: 54 Posts: 166	I think we will take Taylor. Winslow seems like an ego waiting to happen.

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