Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[hagams]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

My concern with Chad Johnson isn't the production. It's a possible shift away from the running game that will stunt the running games growth, sort of like New England lasat year. I mean seriously we'll have Cooley, Johnson, ARE, and Moss competing for catches. Not to mention the desire to use Portis and Sellers in the passing game. As long as we stick to the running game and add an O-lineman or two through the draft then I'm fine with the trade.

I also think this would impact the running game, but not only that the rest of our receivers. What happens when Chad isn't getting the ball, because Cooley is constantly open? That leaves us in the same boat the Bengals are in now. I presonally want him on the team, but it's going to be very fragile for a while. Also, would you want a first year coach to have to put up with Chad's outburst's? Or how about a QB who is finally coming into his own zone to have his go-to guy in his face if he's not feeding his stats enough? Now that I think of it, I'm 50/50 on Chad coming here.

[KB24]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Never said that we should do it even though we are only losing one pick this year and one pick next year.

We need to get out of the habit of giving away draft picks like they're candy. The New Englands, Indianapolises, Pittsburghs and New York Giants of the world use ALL of their draft picks, groom their own talent and get themselves into situations where EACH of those picks are contributing on the field. The Giants had all of their draft picks playing in their Super Bowl run. We need to quit being star-struck and build from within.

[SmootSmack]

He's 30, not 40. Why do people think he has like one good year left?

[Redskin Warrior]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

He's 30, not 40. Why do people think he has like one good year left?

Right On SS they are haters

[skinsfan69]

I don't believe this story one bit.

[hagams]

I'm all about giving up this years 1st round pick, but no more. Chad is a better WR that we can pick up in the 1st round, and probably 2nd. He has his problems, so we'll just assign Mike Sellers to be his roomate on the road, and tell Mike he'll get twice as many carries if he keeps Chad in line....Problem solved.

[wilsowilso]

If we gave two 1st round picks for Chad Johnson we would complete morons. If Cincy rejected that offer they would be complete morons. Therefore I don't think the details are entirely accurate.

[KB24]

Well, it's confirmed! This team is run by jackasses! We're going to -- once again -- sacrifice high draft picks for the future to acquire some me-first clown who has the potential to do just as much damage in the locker room with his attitude as he can to opposing secondaries. We lose out on a chance to get a blue-chip pass-rusher who could take pressure off Andre Carter for someone who, while adding a weapon for the offense, takes away from our ability to build much-needed depth. It's been proven time and time again that the win-now approach doesn't work in the NFL, yet those bozos in the FO just don't want to get it. God help us if the Bengals change their minds!

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by KB24

Well, it's confirmed! This team is run by jackasses! We're going to -- once again -- sacrifice high draft picks for the future to acquire some me-first clown who has the potential to do just as much damage in the locker room with his attitude as he can to opposing secondaries. We lose out on a chance to get a blue-chip pass-rusher who could take pressure off Andre Carter for someone who, while adding a weapon for the offense, takes away from our ability to build much-needed depth. It's been proven time and time again that the win-now approach doesn't work in the NFL, yet those bozos in the FO just don't want to get it. God help us if the Bengals change their minds!

Glad no one is overreacting.

[redsk1]

I think it was the possibility of 2 1st rounders...still that's too much. That's the skins though...one way trades where we're not the beneficiary. As SS said though, it may not be accurate.

1st and a late pick, yes. 2 1st rounders might be too much.

[SmootSmack]

Dirtbag will love this....EXTREMESKINS.com - Dan & Vinny Duped Us / Danny please sell the team / #85 Offer Vent Thread (Merged) (morons)

Anyhow, while trying to actually do my own work I'm trying to get some more info on this rumored deal (also curious what the Cowboys and Eagles are offering, but if it's true the Eagles offered Lito and their 1st for Roy Williams that should tell you something), and it appears that some of these "performance levels" are rather high (even unrealistic), Johnson sets single season TD record for a WR, Redskins host NFC Championship game.

Can't confirm that 100%. But if that's the case, I can see why we made the offer and why the Bengals turned it down.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Dirtbag will love this....EXTREMESKINS.com - Dan & Vinny Duped Us / Danny please sell the team / #85 Offer Vent Thread (Merged) (morons)

Lol, another mid-thread post turned into a new thread. I love it, opinion threads are great, so long as they're not on the Warpath.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Lol, another mid-thread post turned into a new thread. I love it, opinion threads are great, so long as they're not on the Warpath.

That was the greatest merged thread title I have ever read LOL

[mooby]

Is this something Zorn wants or is this something that Dan Snyder wants? I wouldn't want this to happen if it was just another Snyder move that Zorn wouldn't approve of. I'm not gonna overreact here but I don't think it's worth potentially giving up two first round picks. If we gave them this year's first and then like a 4th or a 3rd in next year's draft I'd be fine with that. And for the whole Chad is on the wrong side of 30 argument, well, personally I don't like that he's 30, just because if I was giving up two firsts for a player, I'd want a player in his young to late 20's, probably 28 at the oldest because that's simply more years of production out of him if it did work out. Chad may be 30, but he's probably only got like 5-7 good years ahead of him, which I think isn't worthy of giving up two first round picks for.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I think our roster is in decent shape for 2008, but we need depth for 2009 and beyond. We will likely lose Kendall, Jansen, Daniels, Griffin, Washington, Fletcher, and Springs within the next 2 years. That's about 1/3 of our starting lineup. Granted, players like Heyer, Alexander, and Blades could step it up, but it looks like we are going to need our picks. I'm sorry, but I'd have to blast the front office if they went ahead and traded 2 1st rounders for a 30 year old wideout. If they could land Roy Williams or Anquan Boldin for 2 1st rounders, I'd be on board.