Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Larry Michael is Satan:

I agree we shouldn't make the trade, but I think you're overstating your case. Chad Johnson has put up good numbers with a variety of QBs under center not named Carson Palmer. Chad is no Jerry Rice, but he's certainly among the best and most productive wideouts who are currently playing ball. As for our o-line, barring injury, we're in pretty good shape for 2008.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;441645]Larry Michael is Satan:

I agree we shouldn't make the trade, but I think you're overstating your case. Chad Johnson has put up good numbers with a variety of QBs under center not named Carson Palmer. Chad is no Jerry Rice, but he's certainly among the best and most productive wideouts who are currently playing ball. As for our o-line barring injury, we're in pretty good shape for 2008.

Agreed, but when was the last time our O-line barred injury?
I think we need to spend multiple picks on the o-line this year.

[SmootSmack]

[QUOTE=Larry Michael is Satan;441659]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Larry Michael is Satan:

I agree we shouldn't make the trade, but I think you're overstating your case. Chad Johnson has put up good numbers with a variety of QBs under center not named Carson Palmer. Chad is no Jerry Rice, but he's certainly among the best and most productive wideouts who are currently playing ball. As for our o-line barring injury, we're in pretty good shape for 2008.

Agreed, but when was the last time our O-line barred injury?
I think we need to spend multiple picks on the o-line this year.

Who says we can't? If we realy wanted to do we could trade our #1 for CJ and spend the next 8 picks this year all on offensive linemen.

[Larry Michael is Satan]

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;441667]

Originally Posted by Larry Michael is Satan

Who says we can't? If we realy wanted to do we could trade our #1 for CJ and spend the next 8 picks this year all on offensive linemen.

Done.

[Dirtbag59]

[quote=SmootSmack;441667]

Originally Posted by Larry Michael is Satan

Who says we can't? If we realy wanted to do we could trade our #1 for CJ and spend the next 8 picks this year all on offensive linemen.

I doubt this trade takes place, unless Marvin Lewis acts as a voice of reason. I think the question is do you guys think the team would fare better if they had Phillip Merling and Jordy Nelson or would the team be better off with Chad Johnson and possibly a corner or fallen 1st rounder (like Balmer or Campbell).

However right now, while sorting through all these scenarios I think it would be better if the team took Merling, Nelson, Zutah/Hills, and Bowen instead of maybe Chad Johnson, CB/S, DL, OL.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

I doubt this trade takes place, unless Marvin Lewis acts as a voice of reason. I think the question is do you guys think the team would fare better if they had Phillip Merling and Jordy Nelson or would the team be better off with Chad Johnson and possibly a corner or fallen 1st rounder (like Balmer or Campbell).

However right now, while sorting through all these scenarios I think it would be better if the team took Merling, Nelson, Zutah/Hills, and Bowen instead of maybe Chad Johnson, CB/S, DL, OL.

Good post. What if you could "combine the two."

Suppose you could trade this year's first for two of the Falcons' 2nd rounders? And you trade next year's 1st and maybe this year's 3rd for CJ? Then you get your WR in CJ then early in the second you can draft someone like DE Jackson and DB Porter?

Overall this isn't an easy decision, but what we're forgetting (or ignoring) is that we have so many options in front of us to make a decision. Unlike other years where we didn't even have that luxury.

I can respect the opinion that there may be better ways to use our picks than to send a first for CJ. But I find it extremely difficult to respect the opinion that this spells the end of our franchise because this one move is going to prevent us from doing anything else for the rest of this off-season.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Good post. What if you could "combine the two."

Suppose you could trade this year's first for two of the Falcons' 2nd rounders? And you trade next year's 1st and maybe this year's 3rd for CJ? Then you get your WR in CJ then early in the second you can draft someone like DE Jackson and DB Porter?

Overall this isn't an easy decision, but what we're forgetting (or ignoring) is that we have so many options in front of us to make a decision. Unlike other years where we didn't even have that luxury.

I can respect the opinion that there may be better ways to use our picks than to send a first for CJ. But I find it extremely difficult to respect the opinion that this spells the end of our franchise because this one move is going to prevent us from doing anything else for the rest of this off-season.

Hey Smootsmack, check this out. This is possibly one of the worst new threads I've ever seen, and it's available for free over at ES

EXTREMESKINS.com - Snyder getting laughed at by the league

Anyway I'm going to say this until I'm blue in the face. Mike Brown turned down three first rounders, a second rounder, and a third rounder for the #3 pick in 1999. Personally I think our first round pick and our 3rd/1st next year are as safe as they've ever been. It's like riding a roller coaster, sure it's exciting and you could possibly die, but the chances of death are minimal.

So with that said, anyone worried that we're going to trade for CJ, breath easy. Mike Brown is as stubborn as they come.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Hey Smootsmack, check this out. This is possibly one of the worst new threads I've ever seen, and it's available for free over at ES

EXTREMESKINS.com - Snyder getting laughed at by the league

Anyway I'm going to say this until I'm blue in the face. Mike Brown turned down three first rounders, a second rounder, and a third rounder for the #3 pick in 1999. Personally I think our first round pick and our 3rd/1st next year are as safe as they've ever been. It's like riding a roller coaster, sure it's exciting and you could possibly die, but the chances of death are minimal.

So with that said, anyone worried that we're going to trade for CJ, breath easy. Mike Brown is as stubborn as they come.

Who exactly is laughing at Snyder or the deal from the Skins side of things??

Everything I've seen so far seems to be saying the Bengals are the dumb ones here for turning this deal down.

But as usual, the bridge jumpers are out in full force over there.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

Larry Michael is Satan:

I agree we shouldn't make the trade, but I think you're overstating your case. Chad Johnson has put up good numbers with a variety of QBs under center not named Carson Palmer. Chad is no Jerry Rice, but he's certainly among the best and most productive wideouts who are currently playing ball. As for our o-line, barring injury, we're in pretty good shape for 2008.

And you just said the magic words. Barring injury!! What are the chances of Kendall playing 16 games on crappy knees? Also we can't expect Jansen to play at the level he did a few years ago. He's missed 2 out of the last 4 seasons. So Heyer or someone else needs to be ready. Also Thomas has missed time 2/4 years and when he's out it really seems to hurt the line. Badly. And I'd hate to even think what would happen if Samuels went down. So IMO we have got to stop chasing expensive FA's and start building quality depth.