Offer made on Chad (1st rd '08, conditional 3rd rd '09)

[celts32]

If it were a 1 and a 3 in this draft it would be close to his value considering where we are picking. However, the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him. It's just to much...if we are trading 2 #1 picks then I want someone younger who can play 8+ years for me.

There are very few players in the league worth 2 #1 picks...based on age and production in my opinion the ony WR's worth that compensation are Fitzgerald & Braylon Edwards. Maybe I left one out but basically it has to be a young pro bowler IMO.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by celts32

If it were a 1 and a 3 in this draft it would be close to his value considering where we are picking. However, the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him. It's just to much...if we are trading 2 #1 picks then I want someone younger who can play 8+ years for me.

I'm starting to swing towards it being too steep a price, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY for you to say that "the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him" because no one knows what those conditions are except for the Redskins and Bengals. I sure haven't heard details. If you know something let us know.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I'm starting to swing towards it being too steep a price, but there is ABSOLUTELY NO WAY for you to say that "the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him" because no one knows what those conditions are except for the Redskins and Bengals. I sure haven't heard details. If you know something let us know.

ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by celts32

ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.

I haven't heard that.

There were team based triggers that would need to be met too though.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.

Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.

But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.

End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.

But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.

End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.

Neither do I, I don't think Cincy will stop its stubborness

[SeanTaylor21]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.

But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.

End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.

But, do you think Roy Williams (WR) will be a Redskin at the end of the weekend.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by SeanTaylor21

But, do you think Roy Williams (WR) will be a Redskin at the end of the weekend.

Possibly but I doubt it. The Lions aren't really ready to let him go and on top of that he dosen't think he's a good fit for the WCO.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Possibly but I doubt it. The Lions aren't really ready to let him go and on top of that he dosen't think he's a good fit for the WCO.

I doubt it too, the Lions have no reason to trade Roy Williams...whereas the Bengals do have a reason to trade CJ (they should just blow up that team and start from scratch).

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Who said that? That's not what I heard. They were record-setting numbers for CJ. Plus the team had to meet certain goals too.

But you could be right. I've heard so many different things on this subject, I don't know what to believe really.

End of the day (or I should say weekend), I don't think he's a Redskin.

It was either Mort or Clayton on Mike & Mike. There were team goals also but he definitely mentioned catch totals that I think were 80 & 95.

(I just saw above where you already said this but I can't retract it now)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

ESPN reported that it was based on his # of catches next season...it was something like 65 catches would turn it into a #2 pick and 95 catches would make it a #1 pick.

So yeah Mort did indeed say 80 catches becomes a #2 and 95 becomes a #1

But I don't think that's everything. In fact, I know that the team has to meet certain goals. What those are exactly I don't know. I don't even know if that's everything for CJ

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by celts32

If it were a 1 and a 3 in this draft it would be close to his value considering where we are picking. However, the conditions that will turn this into a #1 pick next year are very attainable for him. It's just to much...if we are trading 2 #1 picks then I want someone younger who can play 8+ years for me.

There are very few players in the league worth 2 #1 picks...based on age and production in my opinion the ony WR's worth that compensation are Fitzgerald & Braylon Edwards. Maybe I left one out but basically it has to be a young pro bowler IMO.

I'm lost.....CJ had better production then both of those....have you looked at NFL.COM's 2007 WR ranking list? CJ came in #3. The two WR in front of him were Reggie Wayne and Randy Moss. Fitz came in #4 and Edwards cam in #7. So I guess production is out you must be talking about youth.

We won't get the #1 WR. He will probably start on a team who needs a WR. We may get lucky enough to get the #3-#4 on the list. I doubt the WR at 3 or 4 will start immediatly. Unless he is so much better then Moss, Randel El, Thrash. He will have so much to learn on this team from the plays to the blocking schemes to the NFL speed. Something CJ already knows and only has to learn the play calls.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm lost.....CJ had better production then both of those....have you looked at NFL.COM's 2007 WR ranking list? CJ came in #3. The two WR in front of him were Reggie Wayne and Randy Moss. Fitz came in #4 and Edwards cam in #7. So I guess production is out you must be talking about youth.

We won't get the #1 WR. He will probably start on a team who needs a WR. We may get lucky enough to get the #3-#4 on the list. I doubt the WR at 3 or 4 will start immediatly. Unless he is so much better then Moss, Randel El, Thrash. He will have so much to learn on this team from the plays to the blocking schemes to the NFL speed. Something CJ already knows and only has to learn the play calls.

Yes, I am talking about youth. Two number one picks is the ultimate price to pay in an NFL trade. While the WR's you mentioned are great they are also too old to pay two #1 picks for them. I mentioned Fitz and Edwards because IMO they have a combination of YOUTH and production that would be worth multiple #1 picks.