Jason Campbell pulled his hammy

[LMsexyAO]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

I know i'm going to catch a lot of hate mail on this one but Campbell will fall by week 3-5 and Colt will take the driver seat to the playoffs and maybe SuperBowl...With our recievers and offense scheme you would want it all so(Not a Campbell injury...maybe thats too far)

Assuming that does happen (which I highly believe it wont), don't you think TODD COLLINS, the proven backup and team leader, will lead the team to the playoffs, not the unproven, 6th round draft pick rookie who has never so much as play a down of professional football in his life?

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by LMsexyAO

Assuming that does happen (which I highly believe it wont), don't you think TODD COLLINS, the proven backup and team leader, will lead the team to the playoffs, not the unproven, 6th round draft pick rookie who has never so much as play a down of professional football in his life?

Dude thats Fantasy okay not reality..But i do think Colt is the Qb of the future...A Passion Project if you will. I'm not sold on JC really. He had a few okay games last year but not a 1st round draft level thats for sure. Who has good seasons first year starting? Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and Tom Brady all has.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Dude thats Fantasy okay not reality..But i do think Colt is the Qb of the future...A Passion Project if you will. I'm not sold on JC really. He had a few okay games last year but not a 1st round draft level thats for sure. Who has good seasons first year starting? Big Ben, Phillip Rivers and Tom Brady all has.

Are you serious with Big Ben and Phillip Rivers? Tom Brady, is an exception because at the time NE didn't have a very good running game. But as for the other 2 they only passed when they had to they both relied on their teams running game. I mean Ben had games in his first year where he only had 9 or 10 attempts in a game. Tell me a game where Ben or Rivers put the team on his back and won the game through the air. I am pretty sure that you can't. Because either the other teams shut down the running game or it was the running game that won it for Ben or Rivers...

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Are you serious with Big Ben and Phillip Rivers? Tom Brady, is an exception because at the time NE didn't have a very good running game. But as for the other 2 they only passed when they had to they both relied on their teams running game. I mean Ben had games in his first year where he only had 9 or 10 attempts in a game. Tell me a game where Ben or Rivers put the team on his back and won the game through the air. I am pretty sure that you can't. Because either the other teams shut down the running game or it was the running game that won it for Ben or Rivers...

A thoughtful comeback, and something that crossed my mind as well. Of course, I had trouble taking much of what he said seriously after he said "Colt Brennan is the future".

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

Are you serious with Big Ben and Phillip Rivers? Tom Brady, is an exception because at the time NE didn't have a very good running game. But as for the other 2 they only passed when they had to they both relied on their teams running game. I mean Ben had games in his first year where he only had 9 or 10 attempts in a game. Tell me a game where Ben or Rivers put the team on his back and won the game through the air. I am pretty sure that you can't. Because either the other teams shut down the running game or it was the running game that won it for Ben or Rivers...

Its about the system and how quickly one can adapt. Ben beat both the SuperBowl teams two weeks straight Eagles and Patriots whom both had one loss between them at the time and only loss in one start that season before losing in the playoffs.After his Superbowl season he started every game except the season opener (missed after having appendectomy)…broke the team single-game record for completions as he posted 38 against Denver…his 433 yards passing against Denver were the second-highest total in team history…finished the season with a career-best 3,513 passing yards with 18 touchdowns.It wasn't Jerome Bettis or the defense that got him there because if so what happened when Maddox and Batch start? As for Rivers do you not remember that herioc drive vs Seattle his first starting season? Last play of the game was a pass to Vincent Jackson in the back of the endzone. Also if it wasn't for an injured knee he would've taking out the Patriots in the Afc Championship. Phillip Rivers is 25-7 as a starter..what other stats you need?

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Its about the system and how quickly one can adapt. Ben beat both the SuperBowl teams two weeks straight Eagles and Patriots whom both had one loss between them at the time and only loss in one start that season before losing in the playoffs.After his Superbowl season he started every game except the season opener (missed after having appendectomy)…broke the team single-game record for completions as he posted 38 against Denver…his 433 yards passing against Denver were the second-highest total in team history…finished the season with a career-best 3,513 passing yards with 18 touchdowns.It wasn't Jerome Bettis or the defense that got him there because if so what happened when Maddox and Batch start? As for Rivers do you not remember that herioc drive vs Seattle his first starting season? Last play of the game was a pass to Vincent Jackson in the back of the endzone. Also if it wasn't for an injured knee he would've taking out the Patriots in the Afc Championship. Phillip Rivers is 25-7 as a starter..what other stats you need?

So the running game that both teams have did nothing for them? You mean to tell me that if you take away Tomlinson and Pittsburgh running attack that Rivers and Ben are on the same level as Brady and Manning? I don't believe it. I am not saying that they are bad QB's, but what I am trying to say is that they fell into teams with a good system in place...

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

So the running game that both teams have did nothing for them? You mean to tell me that if you take away Tomlinson and Pittsburgh running attack that Rivers and Ben are on the same level as Brady and Manning? I don't believe it. I am not saying that they are bad QB's, but what I am trying to say is that they fell into teams with a good system in place...

Like the message started out the are in a system they were able to adapt to. L.T. is the best back in the league of course it helped having him back there. Yet it does matter about the Qb also. Matt Leinart(whom I love dearly as a passionate U.S.C. fan) fell into a perfect system where he shouldv'e rocked yet he's getting rocked, lets face it leinart grabbed way more press into the draft then Ben and Phillip. Its how well you adapt and work your skill.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Like the message started out the are in a system they were able to adapt to. L.T. is the best back in the league of course it helped having him back there. Yet it does matter about the Qb also. Matt Leinart(whom I love dearly as a passionate U.S.C. fan) fell into a perfect system where he shouldv'e rocked yet he's getting rocked, lets face it leinart grabbed way more press into the draft then Ben and Phillip. Its how well you adapt and work your skill.

True, that Leinart fell in to a system with 2 pro-bowl receivers but lets face facts also, the O-line that Leinart has to protect him is far from being one of the best in the league. I mean that line last season gave up 24 sacks and only alowed there running game to average 3.6 yards a carry only leaving KC and the Bears worse than them. Where Ben and Rivers not only fell in to a good system but they also fell in to good teams...

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Originally Posted by Redskins8588

So the running game that both teams have did nothing for them? You mean to tell me that if you take away Tomlinson and Pittsburgh running attack that Rivers and Ben are on the same level as Brady and Manning? I don't believe it. I am not saying that they are bad QB's, but what I am trying to say is that they fell into teams with a good system in place...

Campbell had a HOF coach, and an apparent HOF back in his prime, with as good or better receiving corps as either of those teams, and he also had a very good defense as well. Campbell has a ton to prove we better hope that the WCO makes a bell go off in his head because he's been inadequate to say the least so far in his career.

[Redskins8588]

Originally Posted by HOGTIMUS PRIME

Campbell had a HOF coach, and an apparent HOF back in his prime, with as good or better receiving corps as either of those teams, and he also had a very good defense as well. Campbell has a ton to prove we better hope that the WCO makes a bell go off in his head because he's been inadequate to say the least so far in his career.

I understand what you are saying, I am not defending Campbell. I am just saying that Ben and Rivers had everything set up for them to succeed. And the one thing that you are missing is that Campbell did not have a very good playcaller and the offense that he was running has not fully matured under Sanders and Gibbs. I guess you could say that some of the offense was predictable at times...