Jason Campbell pulled his hammy

[goredskins1983]

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

Good luck on lasting a week.

[chrisl4064]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

Every QB every year will throw costly and untimely int's, thats part of the game. Did JC happen to run over your dog this weekend or something?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

Are you serious or just trolling? Let's look at some facts:

Todd Collins is a career back-up. He QB'd games against the Bears (lots of rain), Giants (wind storm), Vikings, and Cowboys (resting for playoffs). He threw for 156 against the Giants, 261 against the Vikes, 223 against the Cowboys. Our D was playing very well in those four games and those are not stellar passing numbers. Collins played solid and came through in those games to his credit. However after a few weeks of film on him, Seattle made him look pretty bad and I recall a couple of "untimely interceptions" in that game.

You imply that Campbell lacks "brains". I would say the Wonderlic test is a good raw indicator of "brains". Campbell scored a 28. Lets look at some other "smart" QBs: Hasselbeck - 29, Peyton Manning - 25, Marc Bulger - 29, Drew Brees - 28, Carson Palmer - 26, Tom Brady - 33. Not only is your statement insulting, it's flat-out wrong. Before you make statements like that you should check your facts so you don't appear to lack "brains".

A 77.6 QB rating, while not stellar, surely doesn't "suck". Campbell has shown improvement year-to-year even with a rookie QB coach. His Yards per Game went from 185 to 207. His completion % went from 53.1 to 60. His Int % dropped from 2.9 to 2.6 (7th best in the NFL).

Campbell is basically entering his sophomore season, having started only 19 games. If you look at Matt Hasselbeck in his first 12 games he had a 54.8 completion % and a 70.9 QB rating. The next seaon he started 12 games and improved to 63.7 completion % and an 87.8 rating. The following season he was a Pro-Bowl caliber QB, posting a 61 completion % and a 91.4 QB rating. Campbell has better physical skills, a stronger arm and the same "brains" as Hasselbeck. With Zorn mentoring and developing JC, expect him to be playing at a Pro Bowl level towards the end of this season or early next season.

Also, No way Gibbs would've made Collins the starter had he stayed either.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by goredskins1983

campbell is a deadbeat loser. his record as a starter sucks. his QB rating sucks. he throws untimely INTs (TB and Dallas games). he has shown NO improvement year to year. let me guess, you probably liked ramsey too, right? The QB position requires brains as well as skill...you put in Collins and he goes 4-1. No superbowl, but Campbell was 4-6 as a started including a win against AZ in which the Skins had 178 yards of total offense and used the D to win. wow thats great, let me tell you. I want to win now, and I want the guy who can get wins. You may like a 4-6 record, and perhaps you used to be an ex Lions or ex Cardinals fan? lucky for you, there was a coaching change, else, Gibbs and Saunders would have kept Collins as a starter for next year.

I usually respect everyone's opinions and debate with it if my opinions happen to be different.. But I always think that nobody has right to put football players down, especially when that person does not have great knowledge about football..

You are right, Campbell did blow some games but he also won some games for us.. Everyone have their good and bad days including during the gamedays.. You said that Campbell is not smart? I find that very hard to believe, along with some people's facts they just posted to prove you wrong in this thread, if Campbell is not smart as you claimed - then tell me this, how did he managed to survive with 7 different offense system in 8 years? (I believe the numbers are right? If it's not, I'm pretty sure that the number is close to correct number.) It is VERY difficult to learn different offense every year, and I believe Campbell handled it very well.. Please, next time before you start talking shit about someone, think it out and find all facts before you start say something..

I do understand your "anger", as Redskins haven't been exactly great team lately.. But dude, we were great in 80's; every team will have their turn to shine.. You cannot expect a team to be GREAT for years and years, perhaps unless you have same coach for years.. But this does not give you a right to lash out on players who you have not spend time to get to know them. Chill out dude!