Odell Thurman Cut:

[MTK]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

Once again, I think there is a big difference between bad teamates & bad personal behavior. There are plenty of guys that come into the nfl very immature & it shows in their behavior. Thurman sounds more like one of those guys than he does a selfish team cancer type. I'm more comfortable w/guys w/a substance abuse record than a history of self absorbed tantrums.

I haven't followed all his troubles, so I can't say I know much more than what I've read today. If his problems are all drug/alcohol related, and he knows he has to stay clean to keep his job, it essentially comes down to whether he's committed to doing so. I think it's certainly worth looking into to see if the guy has changed.

If he hasn't, well there's always Al & Jerry.

Good thing you don't run the team that's for sure.

The guy was suspended for the last 2 years. That says everything I need to know about his character. The chances of him changing for the better are slim at best.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Good thing you don't run the team that's for sure.

The guy was suspended for the last 2 years. That says everything I need to know about his character. The chances of him changing for the better are slim at best.

Good thing none of us runs that team for that matter, and that's likewise for sure.

If what you're saying is that the chances of drug addicts/alcoholics staying clean for extended periods of time after treatment is "slim at best" then I'd have to agree with you, as would most in the clinical professions that deal w/addicts. But there are addicts that turn their lives around, George Rogers & Bruce Smith to name a couple that had their bouts w/cocaine but cleaned up & had good long careers.

In my post, I stated that I don't know the extent of his problems & what kind of teamate he is. If the front office feels he's a genuinely good guy/teamate that has just had problems in the past but understands the consequences (losing 2 years of your career & big $ is enough to change most people) & wants to turn things around, then I don't see it as such a stretch to sign him.

I also think that the loss of his grandmother might motivate him for the better as well. I certainly didn't mean to come off to say that his behavior isn't a major red flag to say the least.

JLC's post makes sense, if they feel Blades can be the future at MLB they may feel they don't need him enough to take the chance. I still think he's worth looking into if nothing else.

[T.O.Killa]

I like the thought of this guy being a good linebacker for nothing, but the Redskins dont ever get guys like this. I have read every late rou d draft pick they got and they all say hard worker great intangibles. They probably wont take this guy, even for free.

[Riggo44]

If the Raiders I mean Bangles don't want him that's all I need to know. No way we sign him.

[HOGTIMUS PRIME]

Let the cowboys and Jerry Jones have him, our LB's will have to be enough this season we can address that need next year. No need for a player with his issues he just doesn't get it!

[skinsnut]

This guy is a MLB anyways....what we need is depth at OLB.
He is not a fit for us right now...keep on lookin'

[Paintrain]

Let him be someone else's problem.

[Dirtbag59]

Well while we're on the linebacker depth kick, if we do end up signing a former high caliber Linebacker for depth then I think that Takeo Spikes would be a better option. Not saying I really want him, and I doubt the FO will do it, but if it was between Thruman and Spikes I would much rather have Spikes. At least Spikes doesn't have character issues and has been in football as of late.

[SeanTaylor21]

"Thurman, reinstated by the NFL on April 21, already was on a short leash with the Bengals after missing the past two seasons for violating the league's substance abuse policy. He missed the past several weeks of organized team activities to be with his ailing grandmother, who recently died, according to his representative, Safarrah Lawson.

The funeral for Thurman's grandmother was on May 12 and the Bengals wanted him to rejoin the team for workouts soon after, Lawson said. But Thurman remained with his family in Georgia through Monday, at which time the team informed him he was no longer a Bengal."

To me it looks like they released him because he didn't go to workouts after his grandmother died, if my grandma, or any relative died of mine, I'd probably not show up for a month or so.

[ChickenMonkey]

Too bad Odell Thurman is a freakin thumper, he'd be a good backup linebacker and
special teams guy...With the way the redskins players get hurt, you cant have enough guys with starting experience in the backup role

MJ

[Dirtbag59]

To everyone who says that it couldn't hurt to take a look at a guy with character problems then I suggest you watch this video. This is actual footage of GM's and scouts looking at players who have repeatedly f**ked up in the past.



Also: Quote of the day from finkle22281 at ES.

"screw this guy....bring back LaVar!"

I also love how the guy is only available on Waivers at the moment yet every other post over there is Vet Min + incentives.

[MonkFan4Life]

Honestly I'd give hima chance. I'm not saying give him a 7 year $56 mil deal or anything but seriously. Why is it that when it comes to the Skins we are always faking like we need to have these innocent church going nice guys. When Tank Johnson was avaliable everyone said no forget that guy let the Cowboys get him.. Now they have him. A BIG M'Fer to clog up the middle. If he get's in trouble again then you let him go. I mean seriously, we need players. I don't know about you but do we have some serious LB depth somewhere that I don't know about ? It's worth a shot if anything. I'm not so much saying go for Thurman, I would though, but every guy that has a problem it's like No he ran too many red lights I don't want him here. Put some kind of language in his contract that says you blow it you're gone.

[MonkFan4Life]

Honestly I didn't catch it but hey man,.... when you got to get one off you gotta get one off !

[dmek25]

3 pages of picking up this loser. where is the voice of reason?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by dmek25

3 pages of picking up this loser. where is the voice of reason?

I tried.