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Old 05-20-2008, 09:25 AM   #1
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Re: Colt Brennan

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What I believe the hype about Colt is 2 things, 1 WCO, and 2 Joe Montana, he's about the same size as Joe, in the same type of offense, with probably the same type of arm strength, and mobility, Colt has been throughout his entire career a ridiculously accurate QB even in high school when he didn't have a run and shoot offense. I think in the back of a lot of minds that is what people are thinking, or hoping. Of coarse to believe he would be another Montana is quite hard right now and probably very unrealistic, but stranger things have happened, Montana 3rd rd, Brady 6th, and Brady couldn't start for his college team, so where he was drafted as far as I am concerned is irrelevant, what he can do on the field is, and we have a lot of time to find that out.

The level of competition has been a big concern, not so much for myself, he played against teams comparable to his own, his team couldn't handle a big time team, but that doesn't mean Colt couldn't if he had players of equal talent or there abouts on his team. The bottom line is this we used a 6th rd pick on this kid, how can you go wrong under those circumstances? We gave up a heck of a lot more for Campbell and still after 3 seasons we wait and wonder?
You are correct, comparing him to a "Montana" in any shape or form is ludicrous.

Facts are facts and nothing can change them. And the fact is Brennan was a very good player in a very bad conference. Say what you will about his accomplishments at Hawaii, but the reality is that Colt Brennan excelled in a conference that is more like a "farm league" for division 1. He was a "big fish in a small pond". But now he is being thrown into the deep end and he is just another fish. Unless it is an offensive lineman, the WAC (aka Weak-Ass-Conference) is known historically for producing standout players at that level, but once they get to the pro's, they struggle tremendously. See Timmy Chang. The proof is in the pudding, Brennan and Hawaii were undefeated until they played a REAL division 1 team, Georgia, in the Sugar Bowl and the Bulldogs EMBARASSED the Rainbow Warriors 41-10.

The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers. But the run and shoot has not been used in the NFL since the Houston Oilers of the 90's. For this fact, Brennan is a project type player. He will have to re-learn the game from a new perspective against the best players in the world. He has a long road to travel. I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.

Jason Campbell is the best option that give the Redskins the best opportunity to win. I don't think Brennan will even present a viable challenge to Campbell.

Nothing against Brennan, but I look at the school, conference and offense he came from, and none of them compare to anything he will see at the pro level.

I was shocked to see the 'Skins take him in the 6th round. I would have bet that he would have gone undrafted and you could have signed him as a UDFA and saved some money.
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Old 05-20-2008, 05:26 PM   #2
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You are correct, comparing him to a "Montana" in any shape or form is ludicrous.

Facts are facts and nothing can change them. And the fact is Brennan was a very good player in a very bad conference. Say what you will about his accomplishments at Hawaii, but the reality is that Colt Brennan excelled in a conference that is more like a "farm league" for division 1. He was a "big fish in a small pond". But now he is being thrown into the deep end and he is just another fish. Unless it is an offensive lineman, the WAC (aka Weak-Ass-Conference) is known historically for producing standout players at that level, but once they get to the pro's, they struggle tremendously. See Timmy Chang. The proof is in the pudding, Brennan and Hawaii were undefeated until they played a REAL division 1 team, Georgia, in the Sugar Bowl and the Bulldogs EMBARASSED the Rainbow Warriors 41-10.

The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers. But the run and shoot has not been used in the NFL since the Houston Oilers of the 90's. For this fact, Brennan is a project type player. He will have to re-learn the game from a new perspective against the best players in the world. He has a long road to travel. I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.

Jason Campbell is the best option that give the Redskins the best opportunity to win. I don't think Brennan will even present a viable challenge to Campbell.

Nothing against Brennan, but I look at the school, conference and offense he came from, and none of them compare to anything he will see at the pro level.

I was shocked to see the 'Skins take him in the 6th round. I would have bet that he would have gone undrafted and you could have signed him as a UDFA and saved some money.
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The biggest fact is the type of offense that June Jones ran at Hawaii, the "run and shoot", where traditionally you could put almost any old QB in the pocket and he will put up impressive numbers
How ironic, he will be running a system in the NFL that has had very similar results.

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I seriously doubt that Brennan even makes through training camp, and I predict that he will be cut before the regular season.
I will take a piece of that action any day of the week, you should pay attention we have no 3rd string QB, Zorn is committed to him for at the very least this season, if you think this kid isn't going to at the very least be a great practice QB your sadly mistaken.

Some of the greatest players in the history of the NFL came out of small schools, Payton, Rice etc.

Wasn't Romo undrafted?

Do you think Brennan would have won a national champ. if he QB LSU this past season? It would be tough to say no?
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Old 05-20-2008, 06:21 PM   #3
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Re: Colt Brennan

According to scout.com:

Rookie most likely to: Be a steal in five years...Colt Brennan


They presented their "rookie most likely to" list and Colt was listed as a steal by the skins (if u scroll over using the graphic arrows a few times over). Here is what they had to say:

A lot of pundits think that Brennan will be nothing more than an Arena League quarterback because he doesn’t have the ideal size, throwing motion or overall quickness that translate to the NFL. But the one thing about Brennan is that anytime someone questions his ability, he always bounces back and proves all of his doubters wrong. ]

In the last ten years, there have been four quarterbacks selected in the sixth round that have gone on to be Pro Bowl players: Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, Tom Brady and Derek Anderson. I’m not going to compare Brennan with any of the quarterbacks mentioned, but his resiliency is uncanny, and nothing seems to faze him.

Brennan is in the perfect situation with the Redskins to show he’s capable of being an efficient NFL quarterback. New Head Coach Jim Zorn brings his West Coast offense to Washington, and Brennan is the perfect QB to develop in this offense. Although he worked out of the shotgun at Hawaii, Brennan has experience in the West Coast system going back to his high school days. Brennan’s quick release, accuracy and ability to run the offense will be enough to push Jason Campbell for the starting job in two years.
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