Colt Brennan

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Agreed. Timmy Chang, Ty Detmer, and Ron Dayne all put up gigantic numbers in college and none have done anything significant as pros. And Tom Brady is a once-in-league-history story. To think that'll happen again is dreaming.

I would say Brady is rare but not "once in a league history" thing - Unitas was the original Brady.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I would say Brady is rare but not "once in a league history" thing - Unitas was the original Brady.

Brady was a 6th round pick who only got a shot because of a fluke injury to Drew Bledsoe, and has gone on to win 3 super bowls and put up ridiculous offensive numbers, has made multiple pro-bowls, and has a good chance of going down as the best QB in league history before it's all said and done. I'd say that's pretty darn close to a once in a lifetime kind of situation.

[GoSkins!]

The good news for Brennen is that there is an open spot at #3 quarterback. He has every shot at making the team. Hasselbeck was a 6th round pick and it took him 4 years as a backup before he was ready to start. Tony Romo was undrafted. Hasselbeck is probably a more realistic comparisson than "Brady was a 6th round pick". Brady is the "once in a generation" exception. I would think that the Hasselbeck senario is what Zorn and co. are hoping for.... and there have been plenty of good QB's to come out of the late rounds or undrafted (at least for the NFC).

For comparison sake...
2007 Pro Bowl QB's (NFC)
Drew Brees - NFL Draft: 2001 / Round: 2 / Pick: 32
Mark Bulger - NFL Draft: 2000 / Round: 6 / Pick: 168
Tony Romo - Undrafted in 2003

2008 Pro Bowl QB's (NFC)
Brett Farve - NFL Draft: 1991 / Round: 2 / Pick: 33
Tony Romo - Undrafted in 2003
Matt Hasselbeck - NFL Draft: 1998 / Round: 6 / Pick: 184
Jeff Garcia - Undrafted in 1994

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Brady was a 6th round pick who only got a shot because of a fluke injury to Drew Bledsoe, and has gone on to win 3 super bowls and put up ridiculous offensive numbers, has made multiple pro-bowls, and has a good chance of going down as the best QB in league history before it's all said and done. I'd say that's pretty darn close to a once in a lifetime kind of situation.

I'll give you "once in a lifetime" or "once in a generation". You originally, however, said "once in league history". But, like I said, Unitas had similar travails and is considered one of the greatest, if not THE greatest ever. My point is simply that Brady's story has happened before and, in all likliehood, will happen again at some point (albeit around 2030ish).

[70Chip]

Watching Colt Brennan against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl was embarrasing. From memory he had 3 ints and 8 sacks. He also looked slow and confused. I realize his team was overmatched but he really wasn't much help either. The BCS needs to do more to weed out these phony teams and their phony undefeated records. Georgia should have been playing for a National Title and instead they get a J.V. High School team.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Watching Colt Brennan against Georgia in the Sugar Bowl was embarrasing. From memory he had 3 ints and 8 sacks. He also looked slow and confused. I realize his team was overmatched but he really wasn't much help either. The BCS needs to do more to weed out these phony teams and their phony undefeated records. Georgia should have been playing for a National Title and instead they get a J.V. High School team.

"Phony teams" ?? "Phony undefeated records" ??

I disagree. Was Boise State's undefeated record "phony" when they beat Oklahoma two years ago? Aside from them and Hawaii last year, how many undefeated "phony" teams are there? Colt Brennan and his #1 WR Davone Bess were both viewed as solid NFL prospects, Brennan put up massive numbers his entire career, and their team is coached by June Jones who was a long time successful assistant in the NFL. Not to mention the undefeated WAC team from the year prior (Boise St) gave us one of the best BCS games ever when they beat Oklahoma with the statue of liberty.

So can you really blame them for giving Hawaii their shot? Georgia was a legitimate contender from the best conference last year, and simply had too much speed on both sides of the ball. Was it Brennan's fault that his offensive line looked like deer in headlights in the face of Georgia's pass rush? That game wasn't any worse than Florida's 41-14 smackdown of 13-0 (and heavily favored) Ohio St in the national championship the year before. Was Ohio St "phony?" On any given Sunday. Or Saturday in this case. You just never know.

By the way, for those who diss the WAC, they don't get an automatic BCS bid, and keep in mind Boise St, Fresno St, and Hawaii are solid programs year in and year out.