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Old 05-27-2008, 09:56 PM   #1
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

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Courtney Penn is on our school board-see below, I got him mixed up w/courtney brown & misspelled his name cause the 'h' on my keyboard gets stuck a lot. Glad it brought some laughs! Also glad we got E. James, maybe he'll regain his form w/time.

Courtney A. Penn. Effective July 1, 2007, Mr. Penn began his second three-year term on the School Board. He is the Special Assistant to the President of Roanoke College. Mr. Penn is involved in a wide range of civic activities including the Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Beta Phi Boule of Sigma Pi Phi Fraternity, Inc., he serves as co-chairman of the United Way Community Engagement Program and is a member on the State Board of Juvenile Justice. Mr. Penn has served as a member of the Roanoke City Advisory Board for Human Development and the Roanoke City Arts Commission and was chair of the education committee of the Roanoke Branch NAACP. He has three children, and two who are school-age attend Roanoke City Public Schools.
Courtney Penn meet Norman Einstein

Where's the "H" in Courtney Penn (or Courtney Brown for that matter)?

Glad you have a sense of humor
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Old 05-27-2008, 10:17 PM   #2
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

Erasmus James' career has been very similar to the beginning of Kyle Vanden Bosch's career, who is a pro bowler now. Vanden Bosch was a second round pick of the cardinals, who tore 2 ACLs and an MCL in his first 3 seasons and got cut after his 4th season(2004). Then in 2005, the Titans picked him up for the vet minimum and he started all 16 games and got 12.5 sacks.

James was a first round pick who tore 3 knee ligaments in his first three seasons and now he got traded to the Redskins to try to resurrect his career. It might take all of this year to get healthy, but it is definitely possible for him to come back and play very well. I'm not saying he is gonna be a pro bowler like Vanden Bosch, but it is possible. It has been done before.

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Old 05-27-2008, 10:22 PM   #3
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

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Erasmus James' career has been very similar to the beginning of Kyle Vanden Bosch's career, who is a pro bowler now. Vanden Bosch was a second round pick of the cardinals, who tore 2 ACLs and an MCL in his first 3 seasons and got cut after his 4th season(2004). Then in 2005, the Titans picked him up for the vet minimum and he started all 16 games and got 12.5 sacks.

James was a first round pick who tore 3 knee ligaments in his first three seasons and now he got traded to the Redskins to try to resurrect his career. It might take all of this year to get healthy, but it is definitely possible for him to come back and play very well. I'm not saying he is gonna be a pro bowler like Vanden Bosch, but it is possible. It has been done before.

Kyle Vanden Bosch
Erasmus James
I hope youre right...one major difference is size though.
This dude is like 280....James is closer to 260.
That impacts whether he is situational or not
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:16 AM   #4
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

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Erasmus James' career has been very similar to the beginning of Kyle Vanden Bosch's career, who is a pro bowler now. Vanden Bosch was a second round pick of the cardinals, who tore 2 ACLs and an MCL in his first 3 seasons and got cut after his 4th season(2004). Then in 2005, the Titans picked him up for the vet minimum and he started all 16 games and got 12.5 sacks.

James was a first round pick who tore 3 knee ligaments in his first three seasons and now he got traded to the Redskins to try to resurrect his career. It might take all of this year to get healthy, but it is definitely possible for him to come back and play very well. I'm not saying he is gonna be a pro bowler like Vanden Bosch, but it is possible. It has been done before.

Kyle Vanden Bosch
Erasmus James
excellent post. i would only add that vanden bosch has one advantage that james, to all our dismay, does not - a highly disruptive force playing next to him.
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Old 05-28-2008, 09:40 AM   #5
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

I think this is a low risk move that can bring some decent returns. If James gets cut nothing is lost. Even if he makes the team we lose a 7th round pick which is not much. Plus lets say he makes the team and gets hurt in mid-season - we simply cut him and since the contract is non-guranteed we only pay the prorated amount he was on the team.
Relax everyone - this is such a small move and so low risk it is not worth getting all up in arms about!

Also, I would have like to see people's reaction to when the Redskins acquired Daryl Gardner a few years back and how they may have thought that was a mistake - he only produced a ton for a low salary. Than when Gardner demanded a ton the Redskins FO was smart and did not overpay him like the Broncos did and look how that turned out.

I think Cerrato and company are making the right moves now and as long as you are carfeul about shelling out $10 million signing bonuses and don't give away multiple high draft picks you are going in the right direction. Avoid the Brandon Llyod, Adam Archuleta and TJ Duckett type trades and you'll be fine! This move is nothing like those and is about as low risk as you can get. Also the reason the Skins traded for him was if James was released there were teams in front of the Redskins that would have picked him up on the waiver wire before the Skins would have had a chance to sign him.
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Old 05-28-2008, 08:04 AM   #6
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Re: Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

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Courtney Penn meet Norman Einstein

Where's the "H" in Courtney Penn (or Courtney Brown for that matter)?

Glad you have a sense of humor
damn, this just ain't my thread! I guess I meant to say that the 't' on my keyboard is sticking.

As for other Penns, there was Schoonie (sp?) Penn, pretty good point guard at Ohio State some years back.

I remember now that C. Brown was taken #1 overall as has been pointed out, glad that he was. good point about Vanden Bosch that someone made. That would be sweet if James gets his game back in that fashion.
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