Updated: Redskins Trade for Vikings DE Erasmus James

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Depends a lot on how bad his most recent injury was. Was it a complete tear?

It was a complete tear both in 07 and 06.
According to the Vikings both surgeries were considered major, meaning ACL graft/replacement. Last year 2007-2008 season Erasmus James' comeback from major knee surgery lasted all of three or four plays. He tore his ACL again after just a few plays. According to USA Today. This guy is a long shot.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It was a complete tear both in 07 and 06.
According to the Vikings both surgeries were considered major, meaning ACL graft/replacement. Last year 2007-2008 season Erasmus James' comeback from major knee surgery lasted all of three or four plays. He tore his ACL again after just a few plays. According to USA Today. This guy is a long shot.

I think the last time we got someone with knee issues and multiple surgeries from the Vikings was when we got Terry Allen.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the last time we got someone with knee issues and multiple surgeries from the Vikings was when we got Terry Allen.

Terry Allen was coming off back-to-back 1000+ yard seasons and had started 32 consecutive games when we got him from Minny.

He had knee issues but at least he proved he could make it through a season and perform at a high level.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Terry Allen was coming off back-to-back 1000+ yard seasons and had started 32 consecutive games when we got him from Minny.

He had knee issues but at least he proved he could make it through a season and perform at a high level.

I see what you're saying, but that's not entirely accurate. He tore his knee up in 1990 (his rookie year) and missed that season. He played half a season in 1991 and then a full season in 1992. But then he missed all of 1993 following another torn ACL, and then played a full season in 1994.

So two out of three years before the Redskins got him.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I see what you're saying, but that's not entirely accurate. He tore his knee up in 1990 (his rookie year) and missed that season. He played half a season in 1991 and then a full season in 1992. But then he missed all of 1993 following another torn ACL, and then played a full season in 1994.

So two out of three years before the Redskins got him.

Good points. I guess the difference is Terry Allen proved he had fully recovered before we got him. But we're not risking anything since this move won't cost us a think if he doesn't make the team. And I don't think he will.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It was a complete tear both in 07 and 06.
According to the Vikings both surgeries were considered major, meaning ACL graft/replacement. Last year 2007-2008 season Erasmus James' comeback from major knee surgery lasted all of three or four plays. He tore his ACL again after just a few plays. According to USA Today. This guy is a long shot.

Yeah he's a long shot but at the same time coming back from multiple knee injuries isn't the kiss of death that it used to be.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah he's a long shot but at the same time coming back from multiple knee injuries isn't the kiss of death that it used to be.

I just meant long shot in being able to make the Redskin active squad and being a contributing player in 2008-2009 season.
I think the FO will end up putting him on injured reserve and let him rehab his knee all the way before letting him in a regular season game and re-injuring himself. The Vikings brought him back too soon that is why he injured himself.
Regarding the knee, I realize the advancements in knee repair has come a long way, but he has played very little in two years. We can not expect him to rehab his knee and be the same level of player he was coming out of Wisconsin. He has missed a lot playing time and experience. Plus the knee never comes back to what it was before a re-constructive surgery, much less two.
I hope this guys becomes the next great DE.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

It was a complete tear both in 07 and 06.
According to the Vikings both surgeries were considered major, meaning ACL graft/replacement. Last year 2007-2008 season Erasmus James' comeback from major knee surgery lasted all of three or four plays. He tore his ACL again after just a few plays. According to USA Today. This guy is a long shot.

It sounds like this guy is another Courtney Brown from Penn State. But honestly who cares? When do 7th round draft picks ever pan out? I don't have a problem with this at all.

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

It sounds like this guy is another Courtney Brown from Penn State. But honestly who cares? When do 7th round draft picks ever pan out? I don't have a problem with this at all.

Courtney Brown? never heard of him!