What's our greatest need now?

[Darrell_Green_28]

Our greatest need now is to sign our Rookies. Any word on talks are any of them near a contract??

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

Our greatest need now is to sign our Rookies. Any word on talks are any of them near a contract??

That's not going to happen until we get closer to training camp. Even then it's not a huge concern. Snyder and co. do a good job at getting guys in on time.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Darrell_Green_28

Our greatest need now is to sign our Rookies. Any word on talks are any of them near a contract??

The only players that hold out are typically 1st rounders, and the high first-rounders at that. We, of course, have no 1st rounders this season.

Once the dominos start falling, our guys will get their deals done and be in camp on time. Rookie contracts are the least of my concerns.

[SouperMeister]

I'm very concerned about DE. I still disagree with the selecting a TE in the 2nd round when Calais Campbell was on the board. If Andre Carter gets hurt, where will our pass rush come from?

[over the mountain]

^^^ haha thats funny

[Darrell_Green_28]

Any word on the rest of our rookies that we havent signed yet? Shouldnt we have them signed before training camp? are they talking now , has anyone heard anything on this?

[EXoffender]

Overall I would grade our LB depth as a solid C.

Randall Godfrey played well for us when called upon but, if he still has it in him to play he'll probably sign with Greg Williams in JAX. I thought Rian Wallace was a good draft prospect and although he has some playing time (and stats) under his belt with PIT, being released and then re-signed doesn't say they coaches love his game. Matt Sinclair will probably backup an OLB spot at least on Madden 09 since we don't have any other proven guys. I'm cool with giving him a shot. He's paid some dues and made plays on special teams. Blades has filled in for McIntosh on the weak side and hasn't done too bad but, his height can be a liability in coverage.

[vallin21]

I would say Safety. Doughty is a solid backup, and thats it. Schweigert is not starting material which is why [B]OAKLAND[B] let him go. and if Oakland doesn't think you're a starter then you suck.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by vallin21

I would say Safety. Doughty is a solid backup, and thats it. Schweigert is not starting material which is why [b]OAKLAND[b] let him go. and if Oakland doesn't think you're a starter then you suck.

so randy moss sucks?

[vallin21]

Originally Posted by That Guy

so randy moss sucks?

Thats not the point. Randy moss has talent but was a character issue which is why they traded him. Scheigert just sucks. Also Wide receiver is definitly not a need. Moss, ARE, MK, and DT that is one hell of a reciving core.

[SmootSmack]

We have no depth at long snapper. We've been playing with fire the last few years but if Ethan goes down...we're royally screwed

[vaoutlaws2006]

I am with others on this subject...i think we need more depth at cornerback...not sure what the Carlos Rogers' time table is...and possibly more depth at OLB...is Rocky gonna comeback fully healed? And lets all hope that EJ is healthy and the DE's should be good. I think someone else mentioned the drafting of TE in the second round with Calais Campbell still on the board...still baffling to me as well.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by vaoutlaws2006

I am with others on this subject...i think we need more depth at cornerback...not sure what the Carlos Rogers' time table is...and possibly more depth at OLB...is Rocky gonna comeback fully healed? And lets all hope that EJ is healthy and the DE's should be good. I think someone else mentioned the drafting of TE in the second round with Calais Campbell still on the board...still baffling to me as well.

I agree with you that our greatest need right now is a CB. If everyone is healthy and 100% we are fine, however Rogers' and Springs' health are major concerns. Springs will also probably not be back next year, based on cap numbers.

C. Campbell's combine numbers were terrible, and much worse than expected. He has "bust" written all over him. How many 6'7" 290 lb DEs that are worth anything fall to the mid-second round, when prior to the combine they were being touted as a 1st round pick.

[memphisskin]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

I agree with you that our greatest need right now is a CB. If everyone is healthy and 100% we are fine, however Rogers' and Springs' health are major concerns. Springs will also probably not be back next year, based on cap numbers.

C. Campbell's combine numbers were terrible, and much worse than expected. He has "bust" written all over him. How many 6'7" 290 lb DEs that are worth anything fall to the mid-second round, when prior to the combine they were being touted as a 1st round pick.

Hmm, Michael Strahan comes to mind as a large defensive end that fell to the second round...

If we're going to miss, I wouldn't mind missing on a 6'7" 290 lb DE. I hate the combine, all these numbers are an attempt to quantify something that can't be quantified. Those combine drills are just that, drills, who cares that he sucks at the shuttle cone, or doesn't run a 4.5 40 yd dash, or only does 15 reps on the bench press. At 6'7" he's going to knock down passes, at 290 he can be effective against the run, and obviously he played well enough during the season to merit 1st round attention. And long term, we've got a Pro Bowl at TE already, would it have hurt to draft Campbell?

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by memphisskin

Hmm, Michael Strahan comes to mind as a large defensive end that fell to the second round...

If we're going to miss, I wouldn't mind missing on a 6'7" 290 lb DE. I hate the combine, all these numbers are an attempt to quantify something that can't be quantified. Those combine drills are just that, drills, who cares that he sucks at the shuttle cone, or doesn't run a 4.5 40 yd dash, or only does 15 reps on the bench press. At 6'7" he's going to knock down passes, at 290 he can be effective against the run, and obviously he played well enough during the season to merit 1st round attention. And long term, we've got a Pro Bowl at TE already, would it have hurt to draft Campbell?

Most times our 2 TE sets only force the D to account for 3 pass catching threats, with the addition of Davis, it makes it 4. While I wasn't the biggest fan of the pick (I wanted Groves) I can see the logic. It makes the offense much more dynamic, all of the 2nd round picks did. I'm not mad about the draft at all.

I do agree that another end would have been nice, but I don't think Campbell will be that much better than Daniels. I would have liked to have seen Groves be the pick, but I love Fred Davis's playmaking ability and I can't be mad about that pick.