Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

The question for the coaches isn't who is the best player at free safety. IMO, the question is this ... is FS X + SS Landy > FS Landry + SS X. I don't know if we know the answer to that question. I like Doughty, but I'm not 100% convinced that he is a better SS than a guy like Schweigert is at FS. Nor am I 100% certain that Laron is better at SS than FS.

I agree we want our best players on the field at the same time. However (this reply goes to RMSkins as well) the FS position is usually the QB of the secondary. Due to the FS's vantage point of being back in the center of the formation, they see the subtle changes in the formation like if a WR lines up wider or an OL that lines up wider that can tip off a play. A really good/smart FS can make everyone else in the secondary and in turn the defense better.
Just like a good MLB like London Fletcher is the QB of the front seven. Due to a MLB's vantage point (middle of the the line 3 to 5 yds back) he can make sure our DL are in the right gaps and can detect the subtle changes in the gaps/spacing between the O-Linemen that can tip off a play. A good MLB usually calls the audibles for the front seven. Well the FS does the same for the secondary due to his location in the field.
Plus add in the FS is the last line of defense on the field. A good will FS will stop 10-15 yard gainer from becoming a really big play and TD. If the SS misses a tackle while supporting the run the FS can be be behind him to finish the tackle. I know it does not always work out that way, but that is the idea. An elite FS makes the entire defense better. We do not want to put a not so bright guy in at FS because he is a great athlete. He needs to be smart too. The FS is a thinking mans position and tries to outsmart the QB.

[KLHJ2]

2 Years ago, this defense under Greg Williams, referred to a Safety as a Safety. There was no real distinction between Strong and Free. Those distinctions in this defense just came last year after the disappointment of the AA project. When they decided to place specific roles on Safeties it was determined that the most athletic safety would be designated as free and the other would be the strong. At the time we were blessed to have Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Sean Taylor was the more athletic of the 2 at the time. Now fast foreword 1 season, Laron Landry is clearly the better athlete and poised to maintain the Free Safety role that he finished last season with. This of coarse, will only hold true so long as Greg Blache keeps pretty much the same defensive scheme in tact.

In my eyes right now, until somebody else from Redskins Park says otherwise, Laron Landry is the starting Free Safety and Reed Doughty is in competition for the Strong Safety position against Stuart Schweigert. Regardless of who ends up starting where, I like our Corps. of safeties. I just wish we still had Sean too.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Angry

2 Years ago, this defense under Greg Williams, referred to a Safety as a Safety. There was no real distinction between Strong and Free. Those distinctions in this defense just came last year after the disappointment of the AA project. When they decided to place specific roles on Safeties it was determined that the most athletic safety would be designated as free and the other would be the strong. At the time we were blessed to have Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Sean Taylor was the more athletic of the 2 at the time. Now fast foreword 1 season, Laron Landry is clearly the better athlete and poised to maintain the Free Safety role that he finished last season with. This of coarse, will only hold true so long as Greg Blache keeps pretty much the same defensive scheme in tact.

In my eyes right now, until somebody else from Redskins Park says otherwise, Laron Landry is the starting Free Safety and Reed Doughty is in competition for the Strong Safety position against Stuart Schweigert. Regardless of who ends up starting where, I like our Corps. of safeties. I just wish we still had Sean too.

I actually forgot that Gregg Williams at one point didn't really make a distinction between Strong and Free. Well to be honest I learned about that mindset after we signed Archuletta and the Post started writing features on his background and how the team was planing on using him.

However I think you're right in that after the disaster that was the 2006 Redskins, Gregg seemed to favor more distinct roles for his safeties, especially getting Sean to play more centerfield.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Angry

2 Years ago, this defense under Greg Williams, referred to a Safety as a Safety. There was no real distinction between Strong and Free. Those distinctions in this defense just came last year after the disappointment of the AA project. When they decided to place specific roles on Safeties it was determined that the most athletic safety would be designated as free and the other would be the strong. At the time we were blessed to have Sean Taylor and Laron Landry. Sean Taylor was the more athletic of the 2 at the time. Now fast foreword 1 season, Laron Landry is clearly the better athlete and poised to maintain the Free Safety role that he finished last season with. This of coarse, will only hold true so long as Greg Blache keeps pretty much the same defensive scheme in tact.

In my eyes right now, until somebody else from Redskins Park says otherwise, Laron Landry is the starting Free Safety and Reed Doughty is in competition for the Strong Safety position against Stuart Schweigert. Regardless of who ends up starting where, I like our Corps. of safeties. I just wish we still had Sean too.

Anyone who thinks Stuart Schweigert is going to be a Strong Safety for us needs to go to Redskins.com and watch Greg Blache's press conference. Blache calls Schweigert a, "pure Free Safety," and that he is here to compete at the FS position. Schweigert is not your prototypical SS, he is not suited to be an "in the box" type of player because his tackling is sub-par. In Oakland, and at Purdue Schweigert was exclusivley a FS, and there is no reason to believe that he could be a SS for us, he just simply does not have the skill set.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Anyone who thinks Stuart Schweigert is going to be a Strong Safety for us needs to go to Redskins.com and watch Greg Blache's press conference. Blache calls Schweigert a, "pure Free Safety," and that he is here to compete at the FS position. Schweigert is not your prototypical SS, he is not suited to be an "in the box" type of player because his tackling is sub-par. In Oakland, and at Purdue Schweigert was exclusivley a FS, and there is no reason to believe that he could be a SS for us, he just simply does not have the skill set.

I3uT he r whit3 like doughaty and big mac and that r mean he iz Ss.

But yeah RM is right. The guy broke Woodsons INT record at Purdue and he has a reputation as a ball hawk. Even his biggest hit on YouTube wasn't really that big. Though it was probably a lot harder then it looked. I'll have to look into weather or not he has any sort of reputation as a big hitter, but right now I'm under the impression that he's a wrap up tackler that specializes, out of all things, coverage, despite what Raider nation is saying about him these day.s

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Anyone who thinks Stuart Schweigert is going to be a Strong Safety for us needs to go to Redskins.com and watch Greg Blache's press conference. Blache calls Schweigert a, "pure Free Safety," and that he is here to compete at the FS position. Schweigert is not your prototypical SS, he is not suited to be an "in the box" type of player because his tackling is sub-par. In Oakland, and at Purdue Schweigert was exclusivley a FS, and there is no reason to believe that he could be a SS for us, he just simply does not have the skill set.

He (Blache) also said it was too soon to determine who was going to be starting where. Like I said when someone from Redskins Park makes an announcement I will go from there. Right now I have no reason to believe that anyone but Laron Landry is starting at FS.



Schweigert said he's been told that Landry is the projected starter at strong safety. Landry finished last season at free safety after the death of Sean Taylor, with Reed Doughty starting at strong safety.
Defensive coordinate Greg Blache said it was too early to say where Landry will line up.

"He could start as a free safety or a strong safety," Blache said. "Right now, there's no need to rush into that."
Redskins sign Schweigert - USATODAY.com

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by Angry

He (Blache) also said it was too soon to determine who was going to be starting where. Like I said when someone from Redskins Park makes an announcement I will go from there. Right now I have no reason to believe that anyone but Laron Landry is starting at FS.



Schweigert said he's been told that Landry is the projected starter at strong safety. Landry finished last season at free safety after the death of Sean Taylor, with Reed Doughty starting at strong safety.
Defensive coordinate Greg Blache said it was too early to say where Landry will line up.

"He could start as a free safety or a strong safety," Blache said. "Right now, there's no need to rush into that."
Redskins sign Schweigert - USATODAY.com

I absolutely agree. It is to early to say where any of the safeties line up. To me it just comes down to: Is Schweigert a better FS than Doughty is a SS? vice versa. Whoever comes out on top is going to be the starter opposite Landry, and it will determine which position Landry plays.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Anyone who thinks Stuart Schweigert is going to be a Strong Safety for us needs to go to Redskins.com and watch Greg Blache's press conference. Blache calls Schweigert a, "pure Free Safety," and that he is here to compete at the FS position. Schweigert is not your prototypical SS, he is not suited to be an "in the box" type of player because his tackling is sub-par. In Oakland, and at Purdue Schweigert was exclusivley a FS, and there is no reason to believe that he could be a SS for us, he just simply does not have the skill set.

I was wrong to think that Schweigert can be a Strong Safety though.

[smoot27]

I want him to start , he seems like a cool guy who just needs a true chance.
And i believe by the regular season will see STU as our new FS and that could seattle the 09 needed safety problem.


.......but could be a pipe dream.

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by smoot27

I want him to start , he seems like a cool guy who just needs a true chance.
And i believe by the regular season will see STU as our new FS and that could seattle the 09 needed safety problem.


.......but could be a pipe dream.

I want him to start, he seems like a cool guy....huh? WTF are you talking about?

Wouldn't you much rather just see the BEST player EARN the position on the field? Does that make any sense?

You'll have to put down the pipe for just a moment.....I have absolutely no clue what your second sentence is supposed to mean? Never mind, moving on.

[smoot27]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I want him to start, he seems like a cool guy....huh? WTF are you talking about?

Wouldn't you much rather just see the BEST player EARN the position on the field? Does that make any sense?

You'll have to put down the pipe for just a moment.....I have absolutely no clue what your second sentence is supposed to mean? Never mind, moving on.

Want him to start.

[Dirtbag59]

Turns out Landry will remain at FS.

Washington Redskins' LaRon Landry Will Stay at Free Safety

Tanner Kluth has the latest on the status of the free safety position in the Washington Redskins camp.
by Tanner Kluth (Contributor)
1 comments 209 reads
July 22, 2008


Former LSU safety LaRon Landry, the sixth overall pick in the 2007 NFL Draft, is naturally a strong safety. He began his NFL career last year at strong safety, while the late Sean Taylor dominated receivers at free safety.

For the record, the free safety is more involved with defending against the pass, while the strong safety is closer to the line of scrimmage and is more involved in defending against the run.

When Taylor lost his life in late November, Landry just HAD to move to free safety. Allowing deep balls to fly freely down the field could not happen if the Redskins planned on being successful without Taylor.

So Landry was moved, and that's when he really started to shine. That was when Landry became my favorite player and is probably where he got the nickname, "Dirty Thirty."

But, for some reason, even though backup Reed Doughty was solid at strong safety, defensive coordinator Greg Blache was unsure whether he would put Landry back at free safety in 2008.

And, with addition of free safety Stuart Schweigert from Oakland, it even seemed likely that Landry would play strong safety.

In the eyes of most fans, this would be a bad move. Landry really showed his range and speed at free safety.

Fortunately, Greg Blache now seems to agree. Yesterday, after the Redskins' second day of Training Camp, Blache was interviewed by the media.

When asked if he likes Landry at free safety, Blache responded: "I just think he brings so much to the table for us at the free safety spot. He's such a force back there, being able to play the ball from sideline to sideline that I like...to have him back there, and until I can come up with something better or different, we're not fooling with it."

[Luxorreb]

Atleast it's not #31 Roy Williams!
Great signing IMO.

[jdlea]

I really think that moving Laron Landry from the FS position would be a huge detriment to this team. Stuart Schweigert, while decent, just can't fly around the field the way I would like and the way I am accustomed to seeing Redskins' free safeties for the past few years. Landry was a monster at the end of the season, no reason for Blache to move him. Schweigert is not nearly good enough to push Landry into the SS role.

[jdlea]

Well, apparently no one thinks that Schweigert can play SS so I think he'll have to be relegated to backing up both positions as I don't see what more attractive options there are at SS than Doughty. I really don't believe that Schweigert couldn't play SS in this system, but he'd really have to improve his tackling.