Updated Title: Will Portis Shine Again in a West Coast Offense?

[GTripp0012]

Also, if the coach is competent, the only way he allows a player to sniff 2,000 yards is if the player is averaging 6.0 yards an attempt or better.

Even when he was in Denver, Portis was only a 5.5 YPC guy. I'm happy with him being a 1,400-1,500 guy.

[smoot27]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Also, if the coach is competent, the only way he allows a player to sniff 2,000 yards is if the player is averaging 6.0 yards an attempt or better.

Even when he was in Denver, Portis was only a 5.5 YPC guy. I'm happy with him being a 1,400-1,500 guy.

True true, Portis is a 1400-1500 a year kinda back when at hes best...............but funny thing is at his best could be way more.

I think a Broncos Portis is just or maybe as close as you can get to a LT back that not even Adrian Peterson can say anything about that.

[irish]

Originally Posted by smoot27

True true, Portis is a 1400-1500 a year kinda back when at hes best...............but funny thing is at his best could be way more.

I think a Broncos Portis is just or maybe as close as you can get to a LT back that not even Adrian Peterson can say anything about that.

Thats what I am trying to say. CP is doing a good job but when I watch him I think he could be so much better if he stayed in the game more.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by irish

Thats what I am trying to say. CP is doing a good job but when I watch him I think he could be so much better if he stayed in the game more.

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

Give it up, he's not going to have an answer for you, at least not one that offers any sort of meaningful thought.

He saw him sucking wind, end of discussion.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Here's some statistical analysis (I challenge you to find these to cut & paste):

Portis was directly involved in 35% of the Redskins total offensive plays, this means he either ran or made a catch. He was also responsible for 77% of the total runs made by Redskins' RBs. Below are the same stats for other "workhorse" type backs:

LT = 38%, 81%
Westbrook = 35%, 81%
Edge = 34%, 88%
Parker = 34%, 75%
Addai (since you mentioned him) = 29%, 63%

Portis' numbers are similar to these guys, not to mention he led the league in carries. Would you say LT, Westbrook, Edge or Parker comes out to "suck wind"? How much more of a workload would you put on Portis? Every play and carry takes a toll, what happens when Portis is worked to death, go to Betts, Rock? Because you saw Portis come out of a game or two for a brief rest, don't over-generalize into the "sucking wind" comments.

Matty, FYI, this is analysis. Using numbers to draw a conclusion. Good post Sammy.

Its not a game or 2, its every game. These numbers lead me to believe the Skins really get the most out of CP. Like I said, he's still a productive back but like you said, he's being worked to death which leads me to believe he's an old 26. It will be interesting to see how Zorn works him and how he handles not being able to come out whan he wants.

[Cowell]

Originally Posted by irish

Matty, FYI, this is analysis. Using numbers to draw a conclusion. Good post Sammy.

Its not a game or 2, its every game. These numbers lead me to believe the Skins really get the most out of CP. Like I said, he's still a productive back but like you said, he's being worked to death which leads me to believe he's an old 26. It will be interesting to see how Zorn works him and how he handles not being able to come out whan he wants.

I too get the feeling that we are working him a little hard and wearing his treads quickly. He's a great back but he takes a real pounding every year. I can see another injury popping up in the next couple of years if he keeps getting pushed like this. Betts really needed to step up last year, and he never really lived up to that nice contract he signed. If he can't this year you have to question the decision to re-sign him to that fat contract. The point is, Portis needs someone else to take more of the load.