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Old 06-03-2008, 05:21 PM   #1
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Re: Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

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My untrained eyes lead me to believe that Laron is best suited to play FS. However, I distinctly recall the coaching staff saying this offseason that they'd like to move him back to SS. I don't know if that is still the case.

We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.

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Old 06-03-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.
You're putting the FS position on a pedastool. It does not matter if Landry is playing SS or FS, he's still going to be a difference maker, and Landry himself said that he doesn't have a preference on what position he plays. The point is to upgrade you're safety tandem, you want your two best safeties on the field at the same time. If Schweigert is a better safety than Doughty, than we need to have Landry at SS and Schweigert at FS. If Doughty is better than Schweigert, than Landry needs to be at FS and Doughty at SS, it's as simple as that. That's the beauty about having Landry, he's versatile enough to play either position and still be a difference maker, so the coaching staff has the flexibility to be able to put the two best safeties on the field, no matter what the combination is. One more thing I wanted to put out there, don't forget about Moore and Horton. I think that they could be major players in the competition for one of the safety spots.

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Old 06-04-2008, 12:00 AM   #3
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We do not have anyone on the roster that can play the FS as well as LaRon.
A few years ago in preseason Reed Doughty was tried at starting FS but failed. Doughty also played FS in regualr season when ST was injured and he also burned.
But when they started Doughty at SS after Talyor's death Doughty was adequate. That tells you how much more difficult the FS position is to master in the NFL and how much more responsibility that position requires than the SS position.
Why then would move our best safety to SS and start a lesser player at a more important position? That would be like moving Portis to FB.
The question for the coaches isn't who is the best player at free safety. IMO, the question is this ... is FS X + SS Landy > FS Landry + SS X. I don't know if we know the answer to that question. I like Doughty, but I'm not 100% convinced that he is a better SS than a guy like Schweigert is at FS. Nor am I 100% certain that Laron is better at SS than FS.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:30 AM   #4
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Re: Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

I would rather have Landry as free safety. The way he played filling in for ST was unbelievable. Those two picks in the playoffs against the Seattle were spectacular and I hope to god he plays FS.
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Old 06-04-2008, 10:54 AM   #5
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The question for the coaches isn't who is the best player at free safety. IMO, the question is this ... is FS X + SS Landy > FS Landry + SS X. I don't know if we know the answer to that question. I like Doughty, but I'm not 100% convinced that he is a better SS than a guy like Schweigert is at FS. Nor am I 100% certain that Laron is better at SS than FS.
I agree we want our best players on the field at the same time. However (this reply goes to RMSkins as well) the FS position is usually the QB of the secondary. Due to the FS's vantage point of being back in the center of the formation, they see the subtle changes in the formation like if a WR lines up wider or an OL that lines up wider that can tip off a play. A really good/smart FS can make everyone else in the secondary and in turn the defense better.
Just like a good MLB like London Fletcher is the QB of the front seven. Due to a MLB's vantage point (middle of the the line 3 to 5 yds back) he can make sure our DL are in the right gaps and can detect the subtle changes in the gaps/spacing between the O-Linemen that can tip off a play. A good MLB usually calls the audibles for the front seven. Well the FS does the same for the secondary due to his location in the field.
Plus add in the FS is the last line of defense on the field. A good will FS will stop 10-15 yard gainer from becoming a really big play and TD. If the SS misses a tackle while supporting the run the FS can be be behind him to finish the tackle. I know it does not always work out that way, but that is the idea. An elite FS makes the entire defense better. We do not want to put a not so bright guy in at FS because he is a great athlete. He needs to be smart too. The FS is a thinking mans position and tries to outsmart the QB.

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Old 06-05-2008, 07:20 AM   #6
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Re: Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

I like stu but i don't think hes worth the player to change Landry to SS when at FS he did better.

But its whatever i just want the skins to still have a good D and win games no matter what.
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Old 06-05-2008, 08:15 AM   #7
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Re: Stuart Schweigert a Redskin

IF Landry stayed at FS (a move I wouldn't argue w/), do you Schweigert would be the starting SS or do you think that would go to Doughty? It's a great competition, but if they are competing for SS I think it makes the competition a lot more even for Doughty.
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