Bush's former press secretary says Bush misled U.S. on Iraq

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

Dude, I think Asian American is the preferred nomenclature. But to your points:

1. The Democrats do lack intestinal fortitude, but they also lack even a sniff of a rationale for impeachment. You have to have something.

2. I think a strong case can be made that someone must have at least had an inclination that the Japanese were about to move. However, wouldn't that mean that you should have cited Roosevelt instead of Hoover? Hoover was incompetent in the face of economic crisis, but he never engaged in that sort of deceit.

3. Indeed, I do believe that Oswald acted alone.

4. While I am not formally affiliated with the Republican Party, I have only voted for two Democrats in my life. The first time was an accident. In those days the ballots in Virginia did not identify the candidates by party and this guy sure sounded like a Republican. The second time was in the recent primary when I cast my vote for HRC. And, before you accuse me of doing Limbaugh's bidding, I thought of it first. Sort of. In 2000 a lot of Liberals here voted strategically for McCain and I merely followed their excellent example.

Once again...Hoover was a random example. Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class. And...if you want a toe, I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe by 2 o'clock.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Once again...Hoover was a random example. Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class. And...if you want a toe, I can get you a toe. I can get you a toe by 2 o'clock.

That's interesting, man.

It's amazing how Jeff Bridges can bring us together. I think HE'S the "Lightworker".

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Not a specific citation. Watch the Zapruder film and take a physics class.

What does this even mean?

Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

What does this even mean?

Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.

Going through High School, I was basically taught that the Warren Commission did a questionable job, and that one would be foolish to believe that Oswald acted alone.

I've actually never seen any specific evidence on one side or the other. Obviously, lots of public educators have agendas in today's day and age, but I never saw any benefit to proving a JFK conspiracy.

Do you know of any possible reason that a conspiracy proof could help support liberal viewpoint of the JFK assassination? I'm very curious, but I can't really see any motive to distort the truth here...which is exactly what is being done in public schools.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

What does this even mean?

Are you implying that an understanding of physics would prove to someone that Kennedy was killed via conspiracy? Do you even know what you are talking about? I dare you to find one reputable, REPUTABLE, source who has done any scientific research into this topic who claims that Kennedy was killed by someone other than Oswald. I will find you numerous others to the contrary. Sure there are a bunch of crackpot semi-scientists who do this and that and bellow on about the grassy knoll but when sujected to rigorous scientific experiment it has been shown that not only was it possible for Oswald to have been the lone shooter it was actually almost impossible for him to have not been. There have been scientifically conducting recreations which exactly recreated the bullet trajectories into Kennedy and the governor.

uh...watch the film...which, by the way, is the only footage of Kennedy's assasination and probably not counted on by the architects of the conspiracy. When someone's head snaps backwards and a hunk of their head comes off from the FRONT, physics dictates that the force came from IN FRONT of the target. But hey, believe what you want. We can agree to disagree but at least watch the cleaned up version of the film (available on Netflix, by the way) and then see if you feel the same way. THEN watch extensive footage of Oswald after he was arrested. He said time and again that he was a patsy. Being in custody already, he had no reason to lie because I'm sure he knew he was pretty much fucked regardless of what he said, so why not just admit to the crime? Who was Jack Ruby? Nah...no one wanted Oswald silenced, right? Oh pah-leeeeze. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, it might be a duck.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

uh...watch the film...which, by the way, is the only footage of Kennedy's assasination and probably not counted on by the architects of the conspiracy. When someone's head snaps backwards and a hunk of their head comes off from the FRONT, physics dictates that the force came from IN FRONT of the target. But hey, believe what you want. We can agree to disagree but at least watch the cleaned up version of the film (available on Netflix, by the way) and then see if you feel the same way. THEN watch extensive footage of Oswald after he was arrested. He said time and again that he was a patsy. Being in custody already, he had no reason to lie because I'm sure he knew he was pretty much fucked regardless of what he said, so why not just admit to the crime? Who was Jack Ruby? Nah...no one wanted Oswald silenced, right? Oh pah-leeeeze. If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck, it might be a duck.

You're are simply wrong. You are regurgitating common pop knowledge "truisms" that are simply wrong.

First of all when a high powreed rifle hits a life form, it is not only common but almost always the case that the exit wound is larger, much larger, than the entry. That is the truth. The debate about the movement of the head is just that. Most scientists who know what they' are talking about find nothing perplexing with the movement of JFK's head.

I guess I shouldn't say there wasn't a conspiracy but what I am saying is that physics in this case confirms that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from behind him. Plain and simple. And I am not basing that on me just "knowing" physics. I base that on what I have been told by actual scientists who know what they are talking about. Refer to Peter Jenkins' entire show about the assasination where they took a 3-d recreation that the gentlemen had worked for decades to perfect that proved that the bullet that went through Kennedy certainly struck the Govenro without any "magic bullet" physics.

This is a retarded argument. I am done. I'll settle for knowing I am right.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

You're are simply wrong. You are regurgitating common pop knowledge "truisms" that are simply wrong.

First of all when a high powreed rifle hits a life form, it is not only common but almost always the case that the exit wound is larger, much larger, than the entry. That is the truth. The debate about the movement of the head is just that. Most scientists who know what they' are talking about find nothing perplexing with the movement of JFK's head.

I guess I shouldn't say there wasn't a conspiracy but what I am saying is that physics in this case confirms that the bullet that killed Kennedy came from behind him. Plain and simple. And I am not basing that on me just "knowing" physics. I base that on what I have been told by actual scientists who know what they are talking about. Refer to Peter Jenkins' entire show about the assasination where they took a 3-d recreation that the gentlemen had worked for decades to perfect that proved that the bullet that went through Kennedy certainly struck the Govenro without any "magic bullet" physics.

This is a retarded argument. I am done. I'll settle for knowing I am right.

No. You are wrong. There ya go. Watch the film. Draw your own conclusions. I'm sure Oswald was so good a marksman that he could get off 3 shots with a bolt action rifle in a matter of 12 second. Bullcrap. Try it. And for argument's sake, even if the bullet came from behind, you still believe Oswald did it alone..? Go to the building in Dallas and see for yourself. Hmmmmm...why do they have the window sectioned off???? Maybe cause if you saw the view he had you'd say to yourself..."uh...there's no friggin' way!" So unless you've been there, please don't argue about something out of your tuchus.

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

No. You are wrong. There ya go. Watch the film. Draw your own conclusions. I'm sure Oswald was so good a marksman that he could get off 3 shots with a bolt action rifle in a matter of 12 second. Bullcrap. Try it. And for argument's sake, even if the bullet came from behind, you still believe Oswald did it alone..? Go to the building in Dallas and see for yourself. Hmmmmm...why do they have the window sectioned off???? Maybe cause if you saw the view he had you'd say to yourself..."uh...there's no friggin' way!" So unless you've been there, please don't argue about something out of your tuchus.

You are wrong. The bullets came from behind. I think it was the History Channel that had a whole show proving exactly how it happened. All the wounds and exit wounds on both men lined up perfectly with how they were sitting. When Kennedy got hit in the side of his head, the part that got blown off flew forward.

And Lee Harvey Oswald was a former marine sharpshooter, so yes he was that good of a marksman. You don't know what your talking about.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by steveo395

You are wrong. The bullets came from behind. I think it was the History Channel that had a whole show proving exactly how it happened. All the wounds and exit wounds on both men lined up perfectly with how they were sitting. When Kennedy got hit in the side of his head, the part that got blown off flew forward.

And Lee Harvey Oswald was a former marine sharpshooter, so yes he was that good of a marksman. You don't know what your talking about.

Whatever you say, chief. Watch the movie and spin it any way you want and believe everything you see and read. Way to conform, champ.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by steveo395

You are wrong. The bullets came from behind. I think it was the History Channel that had a whole show proving exactly how it happened. All the wounds and exit wounds on both men lined up perfectly with how they were sitting. When Kennedy got hit in the side of his head, the part that got blown off flew forward.

And Lee Harvey Oswald was a former marine sharpshooter, so yes he was that good of a marksman. You don't know what your talking about.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

No. You are wrong. There ya go. Watch the film. Draw your own conclusions. I'm sure Oswald was so good a marksman that he could get off 3 shots with a bolt action rifle in a matter of 12 second. Bullcrap. Try it. And for argument's sake, even if the bullet came from behind, you still believe Oswald did it alone..? Go to the building in Dallas and see for yourself. Hmmmmm...why do they have the window sectioned off???? Maybe cause if you saw the view he had you'd say to yourself..."uh...there's no friggin' way!" So unless you've been there, please don't argue about something out of your tuchus.