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Old 06-15-2008, 07:22 AM   #1
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You can say what you want about chad but the fact is he's 30+ years old with a shitty team that will take at least 2 or 3 years to get back to where it was in 05. So you can hate chad johnson all you want but the fact of the matter is he wants a superbowl, along with every other player. The average career in the league is 2 years, and the average career span for superstars is about 10 - 12. People dont last forever in the league, and when you hate on someone for trying to get to the superbowl while he's in his prime is a fucking joke. whatever
you really are living in fantasy land. with Johnson it is about one thing, and that one thing is money. the guy could give 2 shits about winning. he proved that a couple of seasons ago. the Bengals were a playoff team, with a great offense. and all he was worried about was getting paid. so don't give me that line of shit about him wanting to win
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Old 06-15-2008, 02:58 PM   #2
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you really are living in fantasy land. with Johnson it is about one thing, and that one thing is money. the guy could give 2 shits about winning. he proved that a couple of seasons ago. the Bengals were a playoff team, with a great offense. and all he was worried about was getting paid. so don't give me that line of shit about him wanting to win
dmek, didn't you also accuse Dan Marino of not wanting to win?

Where's the line here, and what gives you insight into which professionals are in it for the money and which others are in it for the glory of victory. Aren't both of those things somewhat selfish in their own manner?

This isn't the first time you have assumed a (incorrect, imo) dualism. Can't some players want to win and get paid? Why is it always one or the other?

Johnson has taken a lot of crap from the media, but whereas Javon Walker, Lance Briggs, and Jake Plummer tried to burn their bridges in order to force a trade, Johnson simply made his desires public, and let the Bengals decide where he would play in 2008. Distraction or not, that is the proper way to go about it, and I don't think this will be an issue again until next offseason.

If the Bengals do have a bounceback season, like many expect, seems like he will be very happy playing out the rest of his career in Cinci.
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:56 PM   #3
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dmek, didn't you also accuse Dan Marino of not wanting to win?

Where's the line here, and what gives you insight into which professionals are in it for the money and which others are in it for the glory of victory. Aren't both of those things somewhat selfish in their own manner?

This isn't the first time you have assumed a (incorrect, imo) dualism. Can't some players want to win and get paid? Why is it always one or the other?

Johnson has taken a lot of crap from the media, but whereas Javon Walker, Lance Briggs, and Jake Plummer tried to burn their bridges in order to force a trade, Johnson simply made his desires public, and let the Bengals decide where he would play in 2008. Distraction or not, that is the proper way to go about it, and I don't think this will be an issue again until next offseason.

If the Bengals do have a bounceback season, like many expect, seems like he will be very happy playing out the rest of his career in Cinci.


The Bengals might have a very good offense, but their defense is equally as bad. I dont see them having a bounce back season. They could even finish dead last in their own division.
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The Bengals might have a very good offense, but their defense is equally as bad. I dont see them having a bounce back season. They could even finish dead last in their own division.
Their D has been bad, but it was never as bad as it was last year. If it can rebound, even to 05-06 levels, that team should win 9-10 games.

Their offense has been a top ten lock for the last three years, and there's no reason to expect that to change this year.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:58 PM   #5
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Their D has been bad, but it was never as bad as it was last year. If it can rebound, even to 05-06 levels, that team should win 9-10 games.

Their offense has been a top ten lock for the last three years, and there's no reason to expect that to change this year.
Chad is an Bengles for life IMO. Their is no other way for the Bengles to put it like that . I like the Bengles but when we play them i'm gonna spit at them.


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Old 06-16-2008, 07:18 AM   #6
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dmek, didn't you also accuse Dan Marino of not wanting to win?

Where's the line here, and what gives you insight into which professionals are in it for the money and which others are in it for the glory of victory. Aren't both of those things somewhat selfish in their own manner?

This isn't the first time you have assumed a (incorrect, imo) dualism. Can't some players want to win and get paid? Why is it always one or the other?
This seems kind of ironic coming from someone who, if I'm not mistaken, said Devin Thomas was only interested in the money when he left Michigan State early, not in getting any better.
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:38 AM   #7
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This seems kind of ironic coming from someone who, if I'm not mistaken, said Devin Thomas was only interested in the money when he left Michigan State early, not in getting any better.
Well, if I can clarify:

Devin Thomas' choice was to get paid now, or spend another year in college to better his game. That is a dualism, as spending another year in college to improve ones game means he is not allowed to enter the draft. It has to be one or the other.

I wouldn't doubt that Thomas wants to help the Redskins win. That seems pretty fundamental. If you want to play professional ball, you probably want to win while doing so. I would argue that he wasn't the best choice for a team looking to improve itself, but that's another debate entirely.

I was simply addressing the dualism that dmek was assuming between 1) wanting to win, and 2) wanting to get paid. I don't believe one exists there. I think people can both want to win and get paid.

Make sense?
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