Kudos to Dan Snyder and Vinny Cerrato

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

This is a "glass half empty/glass half full" subject.

There are those that will say the glass half full is that the optimism of a pretty good draft is showing that the team may now be building for the future through the draft. This is further solidified by the unusually "quiet" (By Snyder standards) Free Agent signing period.

Then there are those that say the glass is half empty, stating that the team did nothing in the off-season to address thier immediate needs.

DE WR right? we tried for cj and got the 3 highest rated pass catcher in the draft, so... also covered safety with ss and drafted some warm bodies, got 3 quality OL depth prospects, and even got a couple DEs that won't do us all that much good.

[bertoskins2]

my kudos also it wa nice right now

[memphisskin]

I think I sense some sarcasm, if only because its not like any of our stars were in jeopardy of leaving this offseason. So in actuality, Dan and Vinny are getting kudos for not doing anything, so it is a sarcastic post! Way to go SC!!!

But seriously, I'd really like to wait to see how the preseason plays out at least before congratulating or denigrating the efforts of DS and VC. Keeping a squad together with some considerable holes (DE, DT, S other than LaRon) that were not addressed on draft day or in free agency is not really a win to me. Did we get better by standing still?

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by That Guy

DE WR right? we tried for cj and got the 3 highest rated pass catcher in the draft, so... also covered safety with ss and drafted some warm bodies, got 3 quality OL depth prospects, and even got a couple DEs that won't do us all that much good.

Rare is the rookie WR or DE that comes in their first year and is an impact player. Rare indeed.

[sportscurmudgeon]

sandtrapjack:

Agree that WRs often do not set the NFL world afire as rookies. But look at what these rookies are trying to augment:

Brandon Lloyd is gone - - and hopefully forgotten by everyone at this point.

Santana Moss catches LOADS of first down passes in the middle of the field - - but when it really matters down in the red zone he is very - VERY - ordinary.

ARE is really ordinary all of the time.

Now, if the new WRs can't work into the system and make the totality of the Skins WRs better than the MOss/Lloyd/ARE/Thrash crew has been for the past two years, then the draftees SUCK - - and it doesn't matter even a little bit what the scouting services say about them.

Prediction: None of the Skins' WR draftees will be unanimous All-Pro selections and none will be player of the year - - but they will as a group be better than Brandon Lloyd was in his lamentable stint here in DC.

[sandtrapjack]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

sandtrapjack:

Agree that WRs often do not set the NFL world afire as rookies. But look at what these rookies are trying to augment:

Brandon Lloyd is gone - - and hopefully forgotten by everyone at this point.

Santana Moss catches LOADS of first down passes in the middle of the field - - but when it really matters down in the red zone he is very - VERY - ordinary.

ARE is really ordinary all of the time.

Now, if the new WRs can't work into the system and make the totality of the Skins WRs better than the MOss/Lloyd/ARE/Thrash crew has been for the past two years, then the draftees SUCK - - and it doesn't matter even a little bit what the scouting services say about them.

Prediction: None of the Skins' WR draftees will be unanimous All-Pro selections and none will be player of the year - - but they will as a group be better than Brandon Lloyd was in his lamentable stint here in DC.

No disrespect intended. On the contrary, I think the way the off season as gone for Washington is a direction they should have gone 3 years ago.

Once you draft a potential franchise QB in Campbell, the next step should be drafting and surrounding him with a supporting cast. I think the additions Thomas and Kelly are a solid step in that direction.

If I were you I would table the Red Zone concerns for a while. Santana Moss is a speedy reciever and is great for getting a team from one 20 yard line to the other 20 yard line. But once in the Red Zone, speed does not help on a short field. This is where I think the addition of Kelly will "show it's teeth". He has the size to be a great red zone target. And with Cooley and Kelly (along with Portis) in the Red Zone, well lets just say I think that is a great combination of size and talent that makes the future very bright indeed.

No disrespect to Joe Gibbs, but his aversion to throwing the ball in the red zone is very well known. But with the West Coast offense now coming in place with Zorn, it is just the opposite. Campbell looks to be getting those supporting cast members in place. It may not be this year, but I think the 'Skins took a substatial leap forward this off-season.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by sandtrapjack

Rare is the rookie WR or DE that comes in their first year and is an impact player. Rare indeed.

Especially WR's. Outside of QB it takes them the longest to make an impact.

[Coff]

Whatever. I'll give them Kudos when they field a team that goes deep into the playoffs or has back to back playoff seasons; until then I'll recognize them as nothing more or less than two people who have been running a mediocre NFL team for nearly a decade.