The 2008 "Who needs to step up" thread

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

... yeah, and that was directly related to our QB play...

Not necessarily. Cooley caught 8 TDs so it wasn't all on the QB.

I might be reading too far into this but I think you might have some sort of axe to grind with JC. Is it because everyone piled on your boy Brunell, and now you're revolting against the majority with your JC bashing?

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not necessarily. Cooley caught 8 TDs so it wasn't all on the QB.

I might be reading too far into this but I think you might have some sort of axe to grind with JC. Is it because everyone piled on your boy Brunell, and now you're revolting against the majority with your JC bashing?

JC has a habit of throwing the short ball.. often, to his TE. He is not good at checking down field and throwing down field (at least not last year). That is what I saw with my own eyes last year and it has NOTHING to do with any axe to grind. I just get very sick of waiting for him to prove himself and most of you always blaming everything around him, but him. I don't consider my opinion of why the WR didn’t perform last year JC "bashing" at all.. it's just an opinion that I've formed by watching games, an opinion that most of you don't agree with. However, I’ve also said in other threads that I’m hoping Zorn will improve his game and he’ll finally step up this year. I'll be the first one to sing his praises if he gets it done on the field.

None of my comments are based on emotions, or my like for Brunell, and none of them should be construed as “bashing”. Don't take my opinion about JC so personally. Just take it for what it is - I want the Skins to win, period.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

JC has a habit of throwing the short ball.. often, to his TE. He is not good at checking down field and throwing down field (at least not last year). That is what I saw with my own eyes last year and it has NOTHING to do with any axe to grind. I just get very sick of waiting for him to prove himself and most of you always blaming everything around him, but him. I don't consider my opinion of why the WR didn’t perform last year JC "bashing" at all.. it's just an opinion that I've formed by watching games, an opinion that most of you don't agree with. However, I’ve also said in other threads that I’m hoping Zorn will improve his game and he’ll finally step up this year. I'll be the first one to sing his praises if he gets it done on the field.

None of my comments are based on emotions, or my like for Brunell, and none of them should be construed as “bashing”. Don't take my opinion about JC so personally. Just take it for what it is - I want the Skins to win, period.

Just calling it like I see it, that's all. If I'm wrong fine.

You just don't seem to have much patience with JC at all. I'm not absolving him of all blame by any means and I don't think anyone here is, he certainly needs to play well this year and as I started this thread with he's at the top of my list for guys that need to step up. But given the circumstances I think he deserves until the end of this year before anyone can definitively say if he's a franchise type of QB or if we should be looking elsewhere.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Just calling it like I see it, that's all. If I'm wrong fine.

You just don't seem to have much patience with JC at all. I'm not absolving him of all blame by any means and I don't think anyone here is, he certainly needs to play well this year and as I started this thread with he's at the top of my list for guys that need to step up. But given the circumstances I think he deserves until the end of this year before anyone can definitively say if he's a franchise type of QB or if we should be looking elsewhere.

Calling it like you see it? .... no, you are reading into it.

It's ok that you want to defend him because you have so much faith in him, but it's also ok for me to doubt him based on his previous performances.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Calling it like you see it? .... no, you are reading into it.

It's ok that you want to defend him because you have so much faith in him, but it's also ok for me to doubt him based on his previous performances.

I'm not defending him based on faith, I'm defending him based on the logic that says we haven't seen enough of him yet to determine what kind of player he is.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not defending him based on faith, I'm defending him based on the logic that says we haven't seen enough of him yet to determine what kind of player he is.

OK!!...and I'm not bashing him, I'm voicing my skepticism based on what I have seen... TRUCE?? Now let's hope for the best and let the games begin!!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

JC has a habit of throwing the short ball.. often, to his TE. He is not good at checking down field and throwing down field (at least not last year). That is what I saw with my own eyes last year and it has NOTHING to do with any axe to grind. I just get very sick of waiting for him to prove himself and most of you always blaming everything around him, but him. I don't consider my opinion of why the WR didn’t perform last year JC "bashing" at all.. it's just an opinion that I've formed by watching games, an opinion that most of you don't agree with. However, I’ve also said in other threads that I’m hoping Zorn will improve his game and he’ll finally step up this year. I'll be the first one to sing his praises if he gets it done on the field.

None of my comments are based on emotions, or my like for Brunell, and none of them should be construed as “bashing”. Don't take my opinion about JC so personally. Just take it for what it is - I want the Skins to win, period.

We went to the first Giants game and I guess there was 10 or so playes were we had WR's 15 20 to 25 yards down field wide open and JC dumped the ball off. My wife even commented on how JC was missing some wide open plays (that cost us that game). The following couple of weeks I watched him close and it seemed some games he was scanning the entire field and other he lock on to players. Not sure whay he would in some games more than others.