John Clayton Addresses The Skins

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Best since Manley, and Mann? That's saying something

Not really. Probably says more to our lack of doing anything over the years to get anything like Manley and Mann

[MPNRedskins]

I enjoy hearing great things about the Redskins, but I want to see the finished product. On paper, everything looks good. I have confidence we will do well this year and surprise a lot of people.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Not really. Probably says more to our lack of doing anything over the years to get anything like Manley and Mann

Au contraire Naysayer,
My good friend Beem calls your "not really", and raises you a "most underrated DE tandem in NFL history".
What say you?


50 sacks for the year works out to 3.12 sacks per game. The last time the Redskins had at least 50 sacks was 1991. In fact, here's the whole list of season sack totals going back to 1982 and where we ranked in the league...

2007 -- 33 sacks, 16th
2006 -- 19 sacks, 32nd (yuck, worst ever in league history)
2005 -- 35, 20th
2004 -- 40, 9th
2003 -- 27, 27th
2002 -- 40, 9th
2001 -- 25, 29th
2000 -- 45, 8th
1999 -- 40, 14th
1998 -- 33, 26th
1997 -- 37, 21st
1996 -- 34, 17th
1995 -- 30, 20th
1994 -- 28, 21st
1993 -- 31, 23rd
1992 -- 39, 16th
1991 -- 50, 3rd
1990 -- 45, 4th
1989 -- 40, 10th
1988 -- 43, 7th
1987 -- 53, 4th *Strike shortened season
1986 -- 55, 5th
1985 -- 52, 9th
1984 -- 66, 2nd
1983 -- 51, 6th
1982 -- 32, 3rd *Strike shortened season

Take note that from 1982 - 1991, otherwise known as "The Glory Years", Joe Gibbs' Redskins never finished worse than the top ten in the league in sack totals.

Dexter Manley and Charles Mann have to be the most underrated DE tandem in NFL history.
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[Miller101]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Au contraire Naysayer,
My good friend Beem calls your "not really", and raises you a "most underrated DE tandem in NFL history".
What say you?


50 sacks for the year works out to 3.12 sacks per game. The last time the Redskins had at least 50 sacks was 1991. In fact, here's the whole list of season sack totals going back to 1982 and where we ranked in the league...

2007 -- 33 sacks, 16th
2006 -- 19 sacks, 32nd (yuck, worst ever in league history)
2005 -- 35, 20th
2004 -- 40, 9th
2003 -- 27, 27th
2002 -- 40, 9th
2001 -- 25, 29th
2000 -- 45, 8th
1999 -- 40, 14th
1998 -- 33, 26th
1997 -- 37, 21st
1996 -- 34, 17th
1995 -- 30, 20th
1994 -- 28, 21st
1993 -- 31, 23rd
1992 -- 39, 16th
1991 -- 50, 3rd
1990 -- 45, 4th
1989 -- 40, 10th
1988 -- 43, 7th
1987 -- 53, 4th *Strike shortened season
1986 -- 55, 5th
1985 -- 52, 9th
1984 -- 66, 2nd
1983 -- 51, 6th
1982 -- 32, 3rd *Strike shortened season

Take note that from 1982 - 1991, otherwise known as "The Glory Years", Joe Gibbs' Redskins never finished worse than the top ten in the league in sack totals.

Dexter Manley and Charles Mann have to be the most underrated DE tandem in NFL history.
__________________
Somebody else for president.

I hear you Hog1, but you can't forget about Dave Butz. That guy was a monster and always held up double or triple teams. Heck, he would still make plays while being double and trippled teamed!!

Now, don't get me wrong. I miss manley and mann. I miss hearing Manley saying things like, "I'm gonna ring his clock!" Or "Mike Ditka is some sort of bumb!" And then he would apologize for it later saying he meant no offense by it!

I'm just saying that you got to factor Butz into those sack totals.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by Miller101

I hear you Hog1, but you can't forget about Dave Butz. That guy was a monster and always held up double or triple teams. Heck, he would still make plays while being double and trippled teamed!!

Now, don't get me wrong. I miss manley and mann. I miss hearing Manley saying things like, "I'm gonna ring his clock!" Or "Mike Ditka is some sort of bumb!" And then he would apologize for it later saying he meant no offense by it!

I'm just saying that you got to factor Butz into those sack totals.

NO DOUBT, they did not do it alone. It was a wicked Swarming D through those years

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Au contraire Naysayer,
My good friend Beem calls your "not really", and raises you a "most underrated DE tandem in NFL history".
What say you?


50 sacks for the year works out to 3.12 sacks per game. The last time the Redskins had at least 50 sacks was 1991. In fact, here's the whole list of season sack totals going back to 1982 and where we ranked in the league...

2007 -- 33 sacks, 16th
2006 -- 19 sacks, 32nd (yuck, worst ever in league history)
2005 -- 35, 20th
2004 -- 40, 9th
2003 -- 27, 27th
2002 -- 40, 9th
2001 -- 25, 29th
2000 -- 45, 8th
1999 -- 40, 14th
1998 -- 33, 26th
1997 -- 37, 21st
1996 -- 34, 17th
1995 -- 30, 20th
1994 -- 28, 21st
1993 -- 31, 23rd
1992 -- 39, 16th
1991 -- 50, 3rd
1990 -- 45, 4th
1989 -- 40, 10th
1988 -- 43, 7th
1987 -- 53, 4th *Strike shortened season
1986 -- 55, 5th
1985 -- 52, 9th
1984 -- 66, 2nd
1983 -- 51, 6th
1982 -- 32, 3rd *Strike shortened season

Take note that from 1982 - 1991, otherwise known as "The Glory Years", Joe Gibbs' Redskins never finished worse than the top ten in the league in sack totals.

Dexter Manley and Charles Mann have to be the most underrated DE tandem in NFL history.
__________________
Somebody else for president.

Never said that Mann and Manley weren't awesome. Just saying that the Redskins (and I know Beem would agree here) that they haven't exactly taken strong measures until now to restore that greatness on the ends.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Never said that Mann and Manley weren't awesome. Just saying that the Redskins (and I know Beem would agree here) that they haven't exactly taken strong measures until now to restore that greatness on the ends.

I believe the actual response was "Not really"?

However, I would agree with you that we have not done ............enough since, to bring back that type of dominance.
HTTR, and kick the Colt's pre-season, meaningless, no starters in the game ass's!!!!!!!!!!!

[MTK]

Taylor can still ball and put up double digit sacks. The only way I don't see that happening is if he gets inj...

I don't even want to say it.

[rypper11]

It's not as easy to get sacks now as it use to be given the rule changes (ie QB can throw away, can't touch a QB high or low...). That being said, the Giants proved that pressures are just as important as sacks.

[Soup's Uncle]

For God sakes let the season start.