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[hesscl34]

Wow I can't believe you are all putting the Giants dead last??

Redskins
Giants
Dallas
Eagles

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Wow I can't believe you are all putting the Giants dead last??

I didn't think they were a good team LAST year and I certainly think they're worse now. Had they not gotten hot and won the Super Bowl (which I'm not trying to take away from them) they'd be a no brainer to finish in the basement.

Dallas 11-5
Skins 9-7 (Own tiebreaker)
Eagles 9-7
Giants 5-11

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by jdlea

I didn't think they were a good team LAST year and I certainly think they're worse now. Had they not gotten hot and won the Super Bowl (which I'm not trying to take away from them) they'd be a no brainer to finish in the basement.

Dallas 11-5
Skins 9-7 (Own tiebreaker)
Eagles 9-7
Giants 5-11

LOL,so you were wrong about last year,why are you right this year?

Remember ...........they did win the Super bowl,11 straight road wins and the last being .Bucs,Cowgirls,Packers and Pats...............that's not a hot streak ,that's being GOOD!

[Giantone]

Dallas,12-4

Giants,10-6

Eagles,9-7

Skins,9-7

...............Zorn being a first year coach ,and some small struggles with another new O system for Campbell.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by Giantone

LOL,so you were wrong about last year,why are you right this year?

Remember ...........they did win the Super bowl,11 straight road wins and the last being .Bucs,Cowgirls,Packers and Pats...............that's not a hot streak ,that's being GOOD!

Okay...we'll see how it plays out. Feel free to bring this thread up if they do well, I don't have any problem admitting when I'm wrong.

I'm still 100% certain they weren't the best team in the NFL last season, but they played their best football at the right time and got a few breaks. I'm not saying that they're not good, those breaks wouldn't have meant anything if they weren't good. David Tyree's catch wouldn't have made the highlight reel if they were trailing by 35. However, I don't see it happening again this year. I think they're in for a pretty big letdown.

However, like I said, I could be wrong, if I am, you can bring this thread back up.

I will also add: What if they hadn't held the Skins on 4th and 1 last year? They probably would have fired Coughlin and lost that season. And: Do you think they're a better team this year than they were last year?

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by jdlea

Okay...we'll see how it plays out. Feel free to bring this thread up if they do well, I don't have any problem admitting when I'm wrong.

I'm still 100% certain they weren't the best team in the NFL last season, but they played their best football at the right time and got a few breaks. I'm not saying that they're not good, those breaks wouldn't have meant anything if they weren't good. David Tyree's catch wouldn't have made the highlight reel if they were trailing by 35. However, I don't see it happening again this year. I think they're in for a pretty big letdown.

However, like I said, I could be wrong, if I am, you can bring this thread back up.

I will also add: What if they hadn't held the Skins on 4th and 1 last year? They probably would have fired Coughlin and lost that season. And: Do you think they're a better team this year than they were last year?

The last question is it for me, and I would answer 'no way!'

With all due respect, the rest of your post is kinda pointless. The Giants were the best team in the nfl because they won the super bowl, that's the ONLY measure we have of who's best. If what you're saying is they weren't the most talented, then I agree fully, but talent alone doesn't make a team.

I just don't think it's much worth it to point out a team's flaws after they just won the biggest game of all. It actually kinda reminds me of the 88 Skins. I remember so many fans talking about how that team wasn't that good, could only win in a strike year, etc. Fact is they won & won big. The Giants didn't win w/that kind of margin but they beat arguably one of the greatest teams the league has seen in many years. No need to debate whether they "deserved" to win or not.

That tirade aside, I agree w/you about the g-men this year. Just like the 89 skins they will have a tough time putting that kind of season together again. The maxed out last year. Plus they've lost a lot of key pieces and let's not exaggerate about dudes like Kevin Boss. Good TE for a 6th round pick or whatever, but no comparison to shockey.

Eli takes too much heat & I think he's a good qb, but he's gonna have a tough time this year & once he does, the NY faithfull will let him know.

The G-men deserve a lot of props & they're a great franchise, but I don't see them winning more than 8 games, one of which I'm sad to say will likely be at our expense.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

The last question is it for me, and I would answer 'no way!'

With all due respect, the rest of your post is kinda pointless. The Giants were the best team in the nfl because they won the super bowl, that's the ONLY measure we have of who's best. If what you're saying is they weren't the most talented, then I agree fully, but talent alone doesn't make a team.

I just don't think it's much worth it to point out a team's flaws after they just won the biggest game of all. It actually kinda reminds me of the 88 Skins. I remember so many fans talking about how that team wasn't that good, could only win in a strike year, etc. Fact is they won & won big. The Giants didn't win w/that kind of margin but they beat arguably one of the greatest teams the league has seen in many years. No need to debate whether they "deserved" to win or not.

That tirade aside, I agree w/you about the g-men this year. Just like the 89 skins they will have a tough time putting that kind of season together again. The maxed out last year. Plus they've lost a lot of key pieces and let's not exaggerate about dudes like Kevin Boss. Good TE for a 6th round pick or whatever, but no comparison to shockey.

Eli takes too much heat & I think he's a good qb, but he's gonna have a tough time this year & once he does, the NY faithfull will let him know.

The G-men deserve a lot of props & they're a great franchise, but I don't see them winning more than 8 games, one of which I'm sad to say will likely be at our expense.

I think the Giants could have a bad year mostly because of the typical SB hangover that most teams have. Otherwise, they are a question mark since last year they got their act together at the right time.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the Giants could have a bad year mostly because of the typical SB hangover that most teams have. Otherwise, they are a question mark since last year they got their act together at the right time.

I'm not sure about that hangover theory. I think that usually applies to the team that loses the Super Bowl. Since 2000:

• Rams (won SB in 1999 season), 2000 = 10-6 (opened season with six straight wins
• Ravens (SB 2000), 2001 = 10-6
• Patriots (SB 2001), 2002 = 11-5
• Bucs (SB 2002), 2003 = 7-9
• Patriots (SB 2003), 2004 = 14-2 won Super Bowl
• Patriots (SB 2004), 2005 = 10-6
• Steelers (SB 2005), 2006 = 8-8
• Colts (SB 2006), 2007 = 13-3

So the average win total of the past eight Super Bowl Champions in the following year is 10.4. That is the kind of hangover I'd like the Redskins to suffer from.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

The last question is it for me, and I would answer 'no way!'

With all due respect, the rest of your post is kinda pointless. The Giants were the best team in the nfl because they won the super bowl, that's the ONLY measure we have of who's best. If what you're saying is they weren't the most talented, then I agree fully, but talent alone doesn't make a team.

I just don't think it's much worth it to point out a team's flaws after they just won the biggest game of all. It actually kinda reminds me of the 88 Skins. I remember so many fans talking about how that team wasn't that good, could only win in a strike year, etc. Fact is they won & won big. The Giants didn't win w/that kind of margin but they beat arguably one of the greatest teams the league has seen in many years. No need to debate whether they "deserved" to win or not.

First of all, I never said they didn't deserve to win. I merely pointed out that they weren't the best team last season. Disagree all you want, in my opinion, the best team doesn't win the Super Bowl every season. It takes a lot: peak at the right time, make the plays when you need to make them, etc. I'm not trying to take the trophy away from the Giants, but if they play 10 times, the Patriots probably win 9. The Giants were better on that day and fortunately for them that's the one that counts. That's the one that won the trophy and that's the one that put them in the history books, but they IMO the better team lost the Super Bowl this year.

NOTE: I have to qualms about saying that the Patriots beat the Rams when the Rams were better them the year that the Pats won their first title. This isn't all a shot at the Giants, I just don't buy that they're going to be that great this season.

EDIT: To add to that, I don't feel like single elimination can ever measure "who is the best." However, single elimination is by far the most entertaining form of tournament so the best playoffs are single elimination tournaments. Most of the time, the best team will win the majority of games that they play a lesser team, the best way to measure the best team would be to have them play a series IMO.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Wow I can't believe you are all putting the Giants dead last??

Like others, I don't think they were a great team in 2007. Eli is not a good, consistent quarterback. The defense carried the team in the latter part of the season, and they lost several key contributors and starters this offseason.