Gameday Thread Jets- Skins

[MTK]

One bad game, check that one bad quarter and all of a sudden the JC doubters are out in full force. This is almost comical. Kinda reminds me of Suisham missing his first kick in the HOF game and people wanted his head. And for the Colt lovers I'm sorry but the guy is not ready to face first string talent in a regular season game, he would get eaten alive. His mechanics stink, he's not disciplined in the pocket, and he makes some very risky throws... he needs alot of work.

[jgalecpa]

At the moment, I think Colt may be the second coming of ....Babe Laufenberg.

Babe was the best 3rd string qb we ever had. Aginst ofther 3rd stringers, he was amazing.

We have only seen colt against the JV, and he has performed admirably.

As for JC, I am currently in a 'wait and see' mode. Pre-season really doesn't count.

However, I purely go by numbers. If his QB rating doesn't start rising significantly (say to 85-95 for the year), his future at this franchise will be in doubt.

J-Dawg

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One bad game, check that one bad quarter and all of a sudden the JC doubters are out in full force. This is almost comical. Kinda reminds me of Suisham missing his first kick in the HOF game and people wanted his head. And for the Colt lovers I'm sorry but the guy is not ready to face first string talent in a regular season game, he would get eaten alive. His mechanics stink, he's not disciplined in the pocket, and he makes some very risky throws... he needs alot of work.

I agree that there is no way CB is ready for prime time but IMO he sees the field better than JC and makes decisions much much quicker. His mechanics are not the best but then again neither are JC's or Brett Favre's. What bugs me most is that this is JCs 4th or 5th year and he is still making the same mistakes (slow decisions, indecision, bad reads, forced balls) he's always made. I know he lacks some experience but its not like he's been standing around Redskins park doing nothing since he got here. I would have though JC would have been much further along than he is. Barring a major injury he is the starter all season but like I said, unless he really shows Zorn some improvement Zorn will begin phasing him out.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One bad game, check that one bad quarter and all of a sudden the JC doubters are out in full force.

Yup. I want to vomit when I read "JC... but Colt............"

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

One bad game, check that one bad quarter and all of a sudden the JC doubters are out in full force. This is almost comical. Kinda reminds me of Suisham missing his first kick in the HOF game and people wanted his head. And for the Colt lovers I'm sorry but the guy is not ready to face first string talent in a regular season game, he would get eaten alive. His mechanics stink, he's not disciplined in the pocket, and he makes some very risky throws... he needs alot of work.

Again, it's not about ONE bad game Matty. It's about wanting to see change.. and what we saw on Saturday was not good. The hope is that he'll put that kind of play behind him and get better and not regress.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Again, it's not about ONE bad game Matty. It's about wanting to see change.. and what we saw on Saturday was not good. The hope is that he'll put that kind of play behind him and get better and not regress.

You seem to use this game to jump on JC but you seem to forget the other two presaeson games where he has look very good. Then people praise Colt for playing good against scrubs but forget about last week when he came in earlier in the game and did nothing against maybe 2nd stringers.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by firstdown

You seem to use this game to jump on JC but you seem to forget the other two presaeson games where he has look very good. Then people praise Colt for playing good against scrubs but forget about last week when he came in earlier in the game and did nothing against maybe 2nd stringers.

I'm the only one jumping on JC?... I didn't start the JC "bashing" this time.. Go back and read the thread. I've been very positive about JC for the last two games, but when you see a guy slowly get better only to regress in the red zone, it's not a good sign.

I have nothing to say about Colt other than to thank him for helping us win games.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I'm the only one jumping on JC?... I didn't start the JC "bashing" this time.. Go back and read the thread. I've been very positive about JC for the last two games, but when you see a guy slowly get better only to regress in the red zone, it's not a good sign.

I have nothing to say about Colt other than to thank him for helping us win games.

So what your saying is that he has looked good but because one time he does not get the ball into the endzone he is regressing. Ok.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Again, it's not about ONE bad game Matty. It's about wanting to see change.. and what we saw on Saturday was not good. The hope is that he'll put that kind of play behind him and get better and not regress.

Fine. What is your opinion of his first two games this year then?

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Fine. What is your opinion of his first two games this year then?

You have access to my threads - so check it. You won't find anything negative, but rather hope that he'll improve.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

You have access to my threads - so check it. You won't find anything negative, but rather hope that he'll improve.

So no praise... just this "hope" that he'll improve, which he did. Seems kinda lame to jump on him over his first bad outing yet no praise for him looking sharp in the other two games.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So no praise... just this "hope" that he'll improve, which he did. Seems kinda lame to jump on him over his first bad outing yet no praise for him looking sharp in the other two games.

Dude, I can hear it now. JC will come out and go 7-7 in his next outing. The pundits will then say, well the receivers were running good routes and JC had lot's of time to throw the ball. Let's see what he does against a real defense.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

So no praise... just this "hope" that he'll improve, which he did. Seems kinda lame to jump on him over his first bad outing yet no praise for him looking sharp in the other two games.

I thought he played his 1st 2 games the way he should be playing all his games (especially the preseason ones) and would expect him to look even better in his sharp games. IMO thinking JC looked super in his first 2 games again tells me he just hasnt progressed as far as I think he should have.

Hopefully I'm wrong but my bet is in 2010 JC isnt the Skins starting QB.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by irish

I thought he played his 1st 2 games the way he should be playing all his games (especially the preseason ones) and would expect him to look even better in his sharp games. IMO thinking JC looked super in his first 2 games again tells me he just hasnt progressed as far as I think he should have.

Hopefully I'm wrong but my bet is in 2010 JC isnt the Skins starting QB.

Damn, you're projecting JC won't be starting in 2010? Are you kidding me? No seriously, are you kidding?

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by irish

I thought he played his 1st 2 games the way he should be playing all his games (especially the preseason ones) and would expect him to look even better in his sharp games. IMO thinking JC looked super in his first 2 games again tells me he just hasnt progressed as far as I think he should have.

And that post pretty much sums up your standard. In his first two games JC completed 12 of 15 passes (80%) for 130+ yards, 1 TD, no INTs, and no fumbles for a near perfect rating. If those are the kind of stats that you are expecting, expect to be disappointed for a long time because there are about 2 QBs in the league who can hope to post those kind of numbers on a regular basis. Are you serious that those are the kind of stats that we should demand?