A QB change is coming

jrocx69 · 11-08-2004, 03:06 PM

the skins won, but brunell lost IMO

the change is prolly what the players want and many of the coaches. they know its gonna be very very hard to get wins with under 100 yards passing on numerous occations throughout the season. Boy itd be nice to see a WR hit in stride on any pattern sometime this season.

offiss · 11-08-2004, 03:13 PM

On the comcast post game 1 commentator made a very good point, you don't change a QB who play's well and loses, and you don't keep a QB who play's bad but win's. Word's of wisdom to live bye. :cheeky-sm

FRPLG · 11-08-2004, 03:18 PM

IMO we absolutly dominated this game. Our running game was as strong as we have ahd in years. Our recievers were open. Our special teams were actually special. Our protection was decent(although Brunell did get roughed up a little in the first half). Our defense just decimated the Lions and we still almost lost. At some point when everything adds up to win and we still lose you have to look at what one thing is not HELPING you win. It is obvious to me finally that Brunell needs to sit. I have held out on this decision for weeks as everyone else bitched and moaned about him. I kept thinking "well gibbs is the man and he knows better than any of us" but that fact that we won this weekend actually proved to me that he is the problem since it is obvious this team hah been doing things capable of winning. I fully expect us to suck once Ramsey gets in there But I think there is at least a chnace that things get better and we end up 8-8 or 9-7. I am utterly convinced that Brunell in there we can't win more than 2 or 3 more games.

diehardskin2982 · 11-08-2004, 03:32 PM

what brought doug williams in during that superbowl season?

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 11-08-2004, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

what brought doug williams in during that superbowl season?

jay schroder stunk up the metrodome,the skins got two tds behind,gibbs brought on williams and schroder was gone for jim lachey by october 1988.

ChounsMan · 11-08-2004, 04:00 PM

I agree with not benching Brunell. Gibbs will probably use this win to motivate his starting QB & hopefully kick this offense in the ass!!

If the Skins lose the next 2 out of 3, I could definitely see Ramsey coming off the bench.

lifetimeskin · 11-08-2004, 04:44 PM

I agree that a change maybe coming, but lets remember what we were just saying as early as 2 years ago when the ballcoach was playing musical chairs with the qbs. We were wondering why so much switching. I am giving Coac Gibbs the benefit of the doubt. He is doing it his way. We didn't quesiton him 15 years ago, and I don't feel the need to do it now. He is showing that he is sticking with "his" guys. Maybe even to a fault, I remember some Offensive Linemen sticking maybe a season or two too many. Stability is the way to success (assuming you have good [not great] players).

Having said that, I do feel that a change is in the wind. Brunnel;s performance this past weekend was absolutely terrible against a poor defense, completely inept. Even Coach Gibbs will have to note that during the film sessions. I don't see him playing against Phili and/or Pitt. Those teams are going to come after us, and we need someone with a rocket arm to make them pay for that.

At this point in the season we need a spark, even with Ramsay known for his turnover's, he still moved the team in NY extremely well. I think with the way our defense is playing, we could lose the turnover battle [not by 3 or more] and still win games.

I can not immagine Coach Gibbs allowing this to go on much longer, he is stubborn but not an idiot.

BIGREDSKINFAN63 · 11-08-2004, 05:06 PM

ramsey has the stronger arm,a lot of those incompletes thrown by brunell would have had a better chance of completition if ramsey were qb.

NY_Skinsfan · 11-08-2004, 05:10 PM

I think we need Ramsey for Philly and Pittsburgh. We need to score at least 21 points to have a chance in either game. I have a question, when Ramsey threw his interceptions last year did any get returned for touchdowns? Throwing pics is bad but it's tolerable if you can get the ball in the endzone more than two times.

What I find amazing with Brunell is not only does he not get us into the endzone, he rarely gets us into field goal position. I would take 3,4 or 5 field goals and two touchdowns any day and I think that that could beat Philly but not to sure about Pittsburgh. The steelers are going to be the toughest test for the defense this year.

That Guy · 11-08-2004, 06:48 PM

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The way Gibbs ahs stuck by Brunell this whole time and finally we win a game and he's going to pull the plug now? Doesn't seem like a Gibbs move. Seems like it would upset the morale of the team to abandon Brunell after a win.

unless brunell had ABSOLUTELY NO PART IN THAT WIN!!! 35% completion, 58 yards? come on... 4 of his 8 games here he's gone under 100 yards, including 2 performances against dreadful defenses...

djnemo65 · 11-08-2004, 08:03 PM

Well we are on the subject of morale, what is it going to do to team morale if 52 guys know that, no matter how hard they play, no matter what happens, one guy isn't going to carry his share. A defense can only do so much, before you have to reward them with some offensive points.

Gmanc711 · 11-08-2004, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djnemo65

Well we are on the subject of morale, what is it going to do to team morale if 52 guys know that, no matter how hard they play, no matter what happens, one guy isn't going to carry his share. A defense can only do so much, before you have to reward them with some offensive points.

Seriously, we are 8 games into the season and the most points we have scored is 18! #*(@$&(#& 18!!!! Our offense in any given game hasent droven "the length of the feild" for a TD more than once. Its pitiful, it has to be set up by our defense, otherwise forget it. I've come to the fact that Brunell just isnt good anymore... I really dont get it... I'm not even trying to anymore. At least Gibbs didnt make excuses for him this week, maybe its a sign.

MTK · 11-08-2004, 09:00 PM

So much for my hunch, guess it was more wishful thinking

Tahoe Skin · 11-08-2004, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Call it a hunch of mine, but I think a change could be coming very soon.

Maybe this week.

You guys are all wrong. Gibbs isn't going to bench Brunell. No WAY!!! You have to understand: Gibbs already has 3 Superbowl victories to his credit. Another Super Bowl win is nothing. Another invite to the HOF? Nah! The REAL challenge is to win another Super Bowl while your QB averages 8 yards per pass per game - not per half. Not even Lombardi did THAT! That's the stuff legends are made of.

Riggo44 · 11-08-2004, 09:48 PM

Another Super Bowl win is nothing. Another invite to the HOF? Nah! The REAL challenge is to win another Super Bowl while your QB averages 8 yards per pass per game - not per half. Not even Lombardi did THAT! That's the stuff legends are made of.[/QUOTE]
:thumb:

Gibbs said that Brunell will start this week!

11-08-2004, 03:32 PM	#4
diehardskin2982 Another Year, another mess. Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,581	what brought doug williams in during that superbowl season? __________________ That got ugly fast

11-08-2004, 04:00 PM	#6
ChounsMan Special Teams Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Connecticut Age: 55 Posts: 312	I agree with not benching Brunell. Gibbs will probably use this win to motivate his starting QB & hopefully kick this offense in the ass!! If the Skins lose the next 2 out of 3, I could definitely see Ramsey coming off the bench. __________________ Throwing on 4th and inches..!

11-08-2004, 04:44 PM	#7
lifetimeskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Maryland Age: 60 Posts: 84	I agree that a change maybe coming, but lets remember what we were just saying as early as 2 years ago when the ballcoach was playing musical chairs with the qbs. We were wondering why so much switching. I am giving Coac Gibbs the benefit of the doubt. He is doing it his way. We didn't quesiton him 15 years ago, and I don't feel the need to do it now. He is showing that he is sticking with "his" guys. Maybe even to a fault, I remember some Offensive Linemen sticking maybe a season or two too many. Stability is the way to success (assuming you have good [not great] players). Having said that, I do feel that a change is in the wind. Brunnel;s performance this past weekend was absolutely terrible against a poor defense, completely inept. Even Coach Gibbs will have to note that during the film sessions. I don't see him playing against Phili and/or Pitt. Those teams are going to come after us, and we need someone with a rocket arm to make them pay for that. At this point in the season we need a spark, even with Ramsay known for his turnover's, he still moved the team in NY extremely well. I think with the way our defense is playing, we could lose the turnover battle [not by 3 or more] and still win games. I can not immagine Coach Gibbs allowing this to go on much longer, he is stubborn but not an idiot. __________________ ---lifetime skin

11-08-2004, 05:06 PM	#8
BIGREDSKINFAN63 Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: bassett-va Age: 63 Posts: 289	ramsey has the stronger arm,a lot of those incompletes thrown by brunell would have had a better chance of completition if ramsey were qb. __________________ "7 days without the redskins, makes one weak!!!"

11-08-2004, 09:48 PM	#15
Riggo44 The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Clemente CA Age: 52 Posts: 2,390	Another Super Bowl win is nothing. Another invite to the HOF? Nah! The REAL challenge is to win another Super Bowl while your QB averages 8 yards per pass per game - not per half. Not even Lombardi did THAT! That's the stuff legends are made of.[/QUOTE] :thumb: Gibbs said that Brunell will start this week! __________________ Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. Benjamin Franklin

11-08-2004, 03:06 PM	#1
jrocx69 Special Teams Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas Age: 45 Posts: 461	the skins won, but brunell lost IMO the change is prolly what the players want and many of the coaches. they know its gonna be very very hard to get wins with under 100 yards passing on numerous occations throughout the season. Boy itd be nice to see a WR hit in stride on any pattern sometime this season.

11-08-2004, 03:13 PM	#2
offiss Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: sparta, new jersey [ northern jersey ] Age: 62 Posts: 3,097	On the comcast post game 1 commentator made a very good point, you don't change a QB who play's well and loses, and you don't keep a QB who play's bad but win's. Word's of wisdom to live bye. :cheeky-sm

11-08-2004, 03:18 PM	#3
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	IMO we absolutly dominated this game. Our running game was as strong as we have ahd in years. Our recievers were open. Our special teams were actually special. Our protection was decent(although Brunell did get roughed up a little in the first half). Our defense just decimated the Lions and we still almost lost. At some point when everything adds up to win and we still lose you have to look at what one thing is not HELPING you win. It is obvious to me finally that Brunell needs to sit. I have held out on this decision for weeks as everyone else bitched and moaned about him. I kept thinking "well gibbs is the man and he knows better than any of us" but that fact that we won this weekend actually proved to me that he is the problem since it is obvious this team hah been doing things capable of winning. I fully expect us to suck once Ramsey gets in there But I think there is at least a chnace that things get better and we end up 8-8 or 9-7. I am utterly convinced that Brunell in there we can't win more than 2 or 3 more games.

11-08-2004, 05:10 PM	#9
NY_Skinsfan Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Albany, NY Age: 53 Posts: 838	I think we need Ramsey for Philly and Pittsburgh. We need to score at least 21 points to have a chance in either game. I have a question, when Ramsey threw his interceptions last year did any get returned for touchdowns? Throwing pics is bad but it's tolerable if you can get the ball in the endzone more than two times. What I find amazing with Brunell is not only does he not get us into the endzone, he rarely gets us into field goal position. I would take 3,4 or 5 field goals and two touchdowns any day and I think that that could beat Philly but not to sure about Pittsburgh. The steelers are going to be the toughest test for the defense this year.

11-08-2004, 08:03 PM	#11
djnemo65 Playmaker Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 2,836	Well we are on the subject of morale, what is it going to do to team morale if 52 guys know that, no matter how hard they play, no matter what happens, one guy isn't going to carry his share. A defense can only do so much, before you have to reward them with some offensive points.

11-08-2004, 09:00 PM	#13
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,050	So much for my hunch, guess it was more wishful thinking

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