Redskins vs. Panthers Gameday Thread

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yes, but to me, there were some real red flags, and Doughty was one of them. Not just in pass coverage, but in run defense. He had a perfect angle on one of the long TD runs (lost track of exactly which one it was) and completely whiffed.

He has always been the weak link in the secondary. The question is if he truly doesn't belong in the starting lineup, and if there's no one else who can take his place, how much of a defeciency does he present for the defense as a whole?

Maybe it was just a bad game. But let's just say that I've always had my doubts about that guy.

I think Doughty is a good player but just average. He is not an elite Safety, and this is what happens when the rest of the defense faulters, you can't depend on him to save the game.

[skinsnut]

Coaching is to blame too...no adjustments.
Why start passing at your own 10....twice....and they game planned...dont they know the panthers have a great dline?

You need to run right at them...especially to get the oline going...then after seeing the struggles...no shifting to shotgun..

I wont even mention the defensive lack of attacking...to vanilla, easy to pick apart..i sure hope we do more on defense.

The coach has a positive perspetive on Jason Taylor speaking with Sonny

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Coaching is to blame too...no adjustments.
Why start passing at your own 10....twice....and they game planned...dont they know the panthers have a great dline?

You need to run right at them...especially to get the oline going...then after seeing the struggles...no shifting to shotgun..

I wont even mention the defensive lack of attacking...to vanilla, easy to pick apart..i sure hope we do more on defense.

The coach has a positive perspetive on Jason Taylor speaking with Sonny

The way Campbell was holding on to the ball, it appears he also forgot that the Panthers have a good d-line.

[skinsnut]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The way Campbell was holding on to the ball, it appears he also forgot that the Panthers have a good d-line.

good point...he was way slower in the last 2 games than in the first 2...especially tonight

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

good point...he was way slower in the last 2 games than in the first 2...especially tonight

I hope Zorn coaches him on this area this week. You can't hold on to the ball with Peppers out there. I'm not sure if he should have gone outside of the pocket or not, but he either needed to buy himself more time or just get rid of it. Otherwise, he's going to get killed by the Jax D-Line next week.

[skinsnut]

Im listening to Zorn and he is so even keeled about this...I dont like this...Id hope he be screaming

Jason taylor ex-rays are negative...MRI pending tommorrow

[GMScud]

Interesting that Dr. James Andrews was at the game with the team. Is that guy on our payroll?

Hopefully just a sprain- Zorn seems to think it's either high or low ankle, not knee. hmmmmm

[skinsnut]

Im starting to think our offensive line is designed for a Don Coryell style of offense...run first to set up play action.

I dont know if our line is prepared to go back on their heels to pass protect so often.
Our line is a smash mouth line that like to move forward.
I really think the transition of the oline has been overlooked

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsnut

Im starting to think our offensive line is designed for a Don Coryell style of offense...run first to set up play action.

I dont know if our line is prepared to go back on their heels to pass protect so often.
Our line is a smash mouth line that like to move forward.
I really think the transition of the oline has been overlooked

I don't think so. The running game is the same, and as far as the passing game goes, this 'West Coast' system gets the ball out faster than under the Coryell scheme.

This is a veteran line that has seen just about everything. No excuses for a performance like we saw tonight.

[skinsfan_nn]

I must have missed this earlier Jansen hurt with ankle injury, not sure if high or low. Just caught this on the post-game interview with Zorn on Comcast w/B Mitch & Co.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

I must have missed this earlier Jansen hurt with ankle injury, not sure if high or low. Just caught this on the post-game interview with Zorn on Comcast w/B Mitch & Co.

Really? How bad is it?

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Really? How bad is it?

They don't know. Depends on if the 'sprain' is high or low. That has a lot to do with come back time, you can usually come back much quicker with a low sprain..have to wait and see. Another bad start for Jansen.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by skinsfan_nn

They don't know. Depends on if the 'sprain' is high or low. That has a lot to do with come back time, you can usually come back much quicker with a low sprain..have to wait and see. Another bad start for Jansen.

He's been getting beat for a sack in each of these preseason games. Sometimes I wonder if the window is closing on Jon Jansen.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

He's been getting beat for a sack in each of these preseason games. Sometimes I wonder if the window is closing on Jon Jansen.

Yeah this is not good. Makes me wonder if the team should have gotten a lineman in the 2nd round instead of a 2nd WR (or Davis???). I just hope we have enough talent in the backups should he go down again (or keep getting beaten)

[skinsfan_nn]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

He's been getting beat for a sack in each of these preseason games. Sometimes I wonder if the window is closing on Jon Jansen.

I agree 100%. Jansen has never been at his best in the pre-season, he usually gets better as we get into the regular season, around week 2/3 he's coming on strong in the past (when he was healthy).

However, after going on three years filled with injuries, and IMO this pre-season coming off a major surgery he just hasn't looked good at all. I think Jansen's time is running out, I could see this being Jon's last season as a Redskin.