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Old 08-23-2008, 07:10 PM   #1
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Re: Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate

Not particularly impressed by the pick. It's a nice safe pick. I understand the Outsider/Insider argument but don't think Biden adds much to Obama's electability. He's from the same Ivory Tower/Intellectual elitist school as Obama.

Before I get flamed: Nothing wrong with being intelligent or well-educated, I am just suggesting that this does nothing to enlarge his base and only emphasizes the very traits that alienated him within his own party. In fact, by picking such an obvious insider it can't help but detract from his primary message.

In general not a big fan of Biden, but that's just b/c I disagree with his politics.
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Not particularly impressed by the pick. It's a nice safe pick. I understand the Outsider/Insider argument but don't think Biden adds much to Obama's electability. He's from the same Ivory Tower/Intellectual elitist school as Obama.

Before I get flamed: Nothing wrong with being intelligent or well-educated, I am just suggesting that this does nothing to enlarge his base and only emphasizes the very traits that alienated him within his own party. In fact, by picking such an obvious insider it can't help but detract from his primary message.

In general not a big fan of Biden, but that's just b/c I disagree with his politics.
Especially coming off dubya
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Old 08-24-2008, 11:04 AM   #3
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Especially coming off dubya
he still makes quite a bit of speech errors, about 3-5 that I noticed yesterday. No way it's as bad as Bush, but I kinda see it as a weakness, especially due to the fact he is kinda old. One time he was referring to the current administration and he said Bush-McCain instead of Cheney.
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he still makes quite a bit of speech errors, about 3-5 that I noticed yesterday. No way it's as bad as Bush, but I kinda see it as a weakness, especially due to the fact he is kinda old. One time he was referring to the current administration and he said Bush-McCain instead of Cheney.
I doubt that's was in error.
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I doubt that's was in error.
I think it was because he said something to the effect of "we are sick and tired of the last 8 years of Bush-McCain". That's just what I thought I heard, definitely could be wrong.
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I think it was because he said something to the effect of "we are sick and tired of the last 8 years of Bush-McCain". That's just what I thought I heard, definitely could be wrong.
It's not, they want to impregnate voter's minds with the notion that Bush and McCain are one in the same. That McCain is as much part of the Bush administration as Dick...4 more years of Bush...Bush's third term.
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Not particularly impressed by the pick. It's a nice safe pick. I understand the Outsider/Insider argument but don't think Biden adds much to Obama's electability. He's from the same Ivory Tower/Intellectual elitist school as Obama.

Before I get flamed: Nothing wrong with being intelligent or well-educated, I am just suggesting that this does nothing to enlarge his base and only emphasizes the very traits that alienated him within his own party. In fact, by picking such an obvious insider it can't help but detract from his primary message.

In general not a big fan of Biden, but that's just b/c I disagree with his politics.
I thought I heard that this choice may help Obama in blue-collar states/towns due to the fact Biden grew up and has ties to Scranton PA and supports blue-collar issues?

I could be mistaken..
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Not particularly impressed by the pick. It's a nice safe pick. I understand the Outsider/Insider argument but don't think Biden adds much to Obama's electability. He's from the same Ivory Tower/Intellectual elitist school as Obama.

Before I get flamed: Nothing wrong with being intelligent or well-educated, I am just suggesting that this does nothing to enlarge his base and only emphasizes the very traits that alienated him within his own party. In fact, by picking such an obvious insider it can't help but detract from his primary message.

In general not a big fan of Biden, but that's just b/c I disagree with his politics.
i don't think this is true, but it makes me chuckle. if im picking a doctor, or lawyer, don't i want the best? if im looking for anyone in elected office, don't i want the best? isn't that what the term "elite" means? why wouldn't i want the "best" in the president? or since this administration, have we lowered our standards so much, that just any old person will due?
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a good safe pick for obama...foreign policy experience is something he really lacks and biden gives him that to some extent. Mccain is really going to have to really pick a good running mate. Here's food for thought....not to sound like a racist or a feminist...but if i am mccain i approach condoleeza rice to be my running mate. you gotta shake things up once in a while and naming rice as his running mate would shock the world.
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a good safe pick for obama...foreign policy experience is something he really lacks and biden gives him that to some extent. Mccain is really going to have to really pick a good running mate. Here's food for thought....not to sound like a racist or a feminist...but if i am mccain i approach condoleeza rice to be my running mate. you gotta shake things up once in a while and naming rice as his running mate would shock the world.
But that's like a 3-0 fastball down the middle for the Dems to say McCain is just four more years of Bush.
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But that's like a 3-0 fastball down the middle for the Dems to say McCain is just four more years of Bush.

when i started thinking about it sounded good but that might be more ammo for the 4 more years of bush theory. I hate to say this but yet again we dont have the best of candidates to choose from yet again. I have felt this way the last 3 presidential elections. Its like choosing the lesser of two evils.
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