Obama Selects Senator Joe Biden as Running Mate

[That Guy]

as for where i stand - both candidates suck, cause neither one is showing real leadership (cause that's not what gets you elected - pandering and playing gotcha games does apparently).

the biggest issue is reforming social security and medicare before they bankrupt the country... that whole 35 trillion in unfunded obligations doesn't sit well with me.

galveston and japan's health care system offer the best examples i've heard of as far as viable cost efficient alternatives... and both have decades of use to prove their effectiveness.

sane nuclear policy - the ability to reuse material (instead of using 1%, maybe use all 99% :P ) along with new pebble bed reactors (clean, safe, cannot meltdown).

funding the recent breakthrough in battery research to get it to market NOW, since it's MUCH more eco friendly and efficient than our VERY old school lead-acid variants...

those two things alone could eventually kill all need for oil and coal, though solar/wind/geothermal/wave power is also fairly cheap.

education i'm not really sure on... the college system seems to be working, since soo many foreigners come here to study, and i've encountered no issues as far as military discrimination (quite the opposite in fact, since the service pays the school directly, i've gotten steep discounts and free books, as well as flexible timetables and 60 credits for my job training alone).

I went to high school in fairfax county and didn't really see it as terrible in any way... though i wouldn't mind pilot programs for crash course vocational training (room + board provided + school provided "students" progress) to lower unemployment. the training can shift according to local/national needs and the tab can be picked up by the company when they hire you (for a multi year contract). - where i'm from, there's just not enough skilled labor (contracting - ie deck building, etc etc)

i could go on, but i've actually looked into it a bit and it sucks that the answers to put the economy back on the up and up are sitting right there, proven, and everyone's too afraid of mentioning them (and scaring people) to make it happen.

so how's that for vague "anti-everything"?

btw, no issues with gays, greed, guns, or god here.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by That Guy

as for where i stand - both candidates suck, cause neither one is showing real leadership (cause that's not what gets you elected - pandering and playing gotcha games does apparently).

This has got to be one of the very worst run Campaigns on both sides in recent memory, if ever.

I mean, you have Obama playing the race card on himself, trying to propose tax hikes on big oil, as well as the upper and middle classes. You have McCain who doesn't seem to be very interested in defending himself against the "Bush's third term" crap, suggesting a gas tax holiday as an economic breakthrough, and really making no clear attempt at all to balance the budget.

One of these guys is going to be running the country. I predicted that we would see a president worse than Bush in the near future, but I didn't think that day could possibly come this soon.

My vote is totally up for grabs right now. First guy to suggest an idea that might work gets it. Because right now, both campaigns are out there, just trying to prove they are the lesser of the two evils, and that should inspire confidence in exactly no one.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This has got to be one of the very worst run Campaigns on both sides in recent memory, if ever.

I mean, you have Obama playing the race card on himself, trying to propose tax hikes on big oil, as well as the upper and middle classes. You have McCain who doesn't seem to be very interested in defending himself against the "Bush's third term" crap, suggesting a gas tax holiday as an economic breakthrough, and really making no clear attempt at all to balance the budget.

One of these guys is going to be running the country. I predicted that we would see a president worse than Bush in the near future, but I didn't think that day could possibly come this soon.

My vote is totally up for grabs right now. First guy to suggest an idea that might work gets it. Because right now, both campaigns are out there, just trying to prove they are the lesser of the two evils, and that should inspire confidence in exactly no one.

Huh? I actually disagree with a couple of things you said, but that's neither here nor there. But one of the worst run campaigns ever?

Are you confusing your disagreements with their respective policy positions with the execution, sheer effectiveness, and organizational strength of the operations? Because I can tell you whether you like him or not, agree with his positions or not, Obama has run a phenomenal campaign.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This has got to be one of the very worst run Campaigns on both sides in recent memory, if ever.

I mean, you have Obama playing the race card on himself, trying to propose tax hikes on big oil, as well as the upper and middle classes. You have McCain who doesn't seem to be very interested in defending himself against the "Bush's third term" crap, suggesting a gas tax holiday as an economic breakthrough, and really making no clear attempt at all to balance the budget.

One of these guys is going to be running the country. I predicted that we would see a president worse than Bush in the near future, but I didn't think that day could possibly come this soon.

My vote is totally up for grabs right now. First guy to suggest an idea that might work gets it. Because right now, both campaigns are out there, just trying to prove they are the lesser of the two evils, and that should inspire confidence in exactly no one.

I'm not sure that's possible. If that happens we're in for a world of shit.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm not sure that's possible. If that happens we're in for a world of shit.

People probably wouldn't have thought it possible after Buchanan, or Harding, or Hoover.

I think that these are actually two strong candidates though

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

People probably wouldn't have thought it possible after Buchanan, or Harding, or Hoover.

I think that these are actually two strong candidates though

Wait, I thought the original quote was that we were expecting a worse President after Bush.

Lincoln followed Buchanan - Arguably the greatest President ever.

Coolidge followed Harding - While not a "great" President, he presided over a period of prosperity, and is generally considered a good President.

F.D.R. followed Hoover - Certainly a great President and maybe the only other one in the same class as Lincoln and Washington.

If either McCain or Obama is the next Lincoln, F.D.R. or even Coolidge, I will: 1) Sit in the upper deck of the Linc in full Redskins attire shouting "Eagles suck"; and 2) discount all evidence of global warming as Hell most assuredly had frozen over.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Wait, I thought the original quote was that we were expecting a worse President after Bush.

Lincoln followed Buchanan - Arguably the greatest President ever.

Coolidge followed Harding - While not a "great" President, he presided over a period of prosperity, and is generally considered a good President.

F.D.R. followed Hoover - Certainly a great President and maybe the only other one in the same class as Lincoln and Washington.

If either McCain or Obama is the next Lincoln, F.D.R. or even Coolidge, I will: 1) Sit in the upper deck of the Linc in full Redskins attire shouting "Eagles suck"; and 2) discount all evidence of global warming as Hell most assuredly had frozen over.

Sorry, guess I misunderstood the original post. Damn my Republican ignorance!!!

I thought this was about a worse President at any point, not just the next President.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry, guess I misunderstood the original post. Damn my Republican ignorance!!!

I thought this was about a worse President at any point, not just the next President.

Of course, if you put Bush in the class of Hoover, Buchanan and Harding - We're looking damn good for '08.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry, guess I misunderstood the original post. Damn my Republican ignorance!!!

I thought this was about a worse President at any point, not just the next President.

That's not Republican ingnorance your just too busy consentrating on the 4 G's the things that all Republicans hold so deer.