Todd Collins: Best Backup QB in the NFL?

[doughtydoubter]

im with you schneed..collins wins games that were a TOTAL team effort, if JC was in there i have no doubts he could have rallied the troops as well.
I think collins did a great job AFTER gibbs gave up the reins to saunders and let him call the offense...but if i was in the same offense for 11 years id hope to have a damn good knowledge of it too..
call me a pessimist. but i think tc is not that great in a new system..hes been a career backup for a reason

[Ruhskins]

Hey it could be worse, we could have David Carr, Alex Smith, or Chris Redman as our backups. LOL.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey it could be worse, we could have David Carr, Alex Smith, or Chris Redman as our backups. LOL.

Or the Pillsbury Throw Boy.

[doughtydoubter]

what we need is to just paralyze eli....that will allay all our fears of a spurrier repeat

[doughtydoubter]

i hope so too..im ready for jasons reign to begin...he deserves it. I just want the redskins to have a franchise qb is that such a big thing to ask for?

[sportscurmudgeon]

Matty:

As a matter of fact, Brady Quinn did play in a regular season meaningful game last year. He didn't play a lot, but he played.

Is Quinn better than Todd Collins as a backup QB? No way to know that at the moment because Quinn has not yet played enough NFL football.

Pretend you are Vinny Cerato for a moment. If the clock were turned back to June 1 and you still had all of training camp in front of you to "hone" your back-up QB, would you have traded Collins for Quinn even up?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Matty:

As a matter of fact, Brady Quinn did play in a regular season meaningful game last year. He didn't play a lot, but he played.

Is Quinn better than Todd Collins as a backup QB? No way to know that at the moment because Quinn has not yet played enough NFL football.

Pretend you are Vinny Cerato for a moment. If the clock were turned back to June 1 and you still had all of training camp in front of you to "hone" your back-up QB, would you have traded Collins for Quinn even up?

Depends on what you value. If you want a young guy waiting in the wings to be your future starter Quinn is your guy. If you want a vet who can step in and lead a team in crunch time (and has proven that he can), Collins is your guy.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Depends on what you value. If you want a young guy waiting in the wings to be your future starter Quinn is your guy. If you want a vet who can step in and lead a team in crunch time (and has proven that he can), Collins is your guy.

What has Collins really "proven" though? If the unproven argument works against Quinn as an NFL QB, then it applies almost as well to Collins...who just happens to be 37 years old.

Collins hasn't even played a half season's worth of snaps since since 1997. He'll always have his place in Redskins history for what he helped the team accomplish last year...but like I said earlier, what we "know" about Todd Collins is simply us fans passing judgment on a guy who never hit any kind of adversity (or decent pass defense) last year before the season ended in Seattle.

So while I can give you the fact that based on what we've seen from him as a Redskin, he seems to be an ideal backup, I don't think anyone would be shocked if he were to play poorly this year if forced into action.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

What has Collins really "proven" though? If the unproven argument works against Quinn as an NFL QB, then it applies almost as well to Collins...who just happens to be 37 years old.

Collins hasn't even played a half season's worth of snaps since since 1997. He'll always have his place in Redskins history for what he helped the team accomplish last year...but like I said earlier, what we "know" about Todd Collins is simply us fans passing judgment on a guy who never hit any kind of adversity (or decent pass defense) last year before the season ended in Seattle.

So while I can give you the fact that based on what we've seen from him as a Redskin, he seems to be an ideal backup, I don't think anyone would be shocked if he were to play poorly this year if forced into action.

I'm just going off what we saw from him last year, which is limited of course. But when compared to what Quinn has done which is even more limited I definitely would have more trust in Collins.

[GTripp0012]

Banks's list is horrible in other places also. I mean, it seems to be full of bias because young QBs with similar career projection are spread out all over the list and past-their prime vets are spread out as well. Why is Trent Green 7, and Mark Brunell 18. They are the same old, injury-riddled, still-efficient-when-healthy passer. Yet, 10 spots apart.

[SmootSmack]

I don't care for Banks at all. I don't know what it is about him, maybe his history of misinformed columns that target the Redskins that I don't believe him to be an impartial journalist.

With that said, I think his choice of Collins as the best backup in the NFL is misguided because it's simply not the same offense and while I think Collins wouldn't kill us if forced to play, he's simply not as comfortable (to my surprise) in this offense.

Further, it seemed to me that Banks wasn't praising Collins as much as he was ripping the Redskins and implying there was dissension within the organization for Campbell being the starter.

[doughtydoubter]

Lets just say what we all want...that colt brennan is the true best backup in the league!

[SkinEmAll]

holy shit, i feel like im sitting in the middle of a kindergarden class as i read this. Does it really matter if he is THE best? Or isnt it good enough to know that as Matty said that someone is giving some props. Some of you put a whole lot of thought into your replys. And Im thinking to myself......hmmmm, this is a article about back-up QB's, and its like, oh nevermind, Im just gonna go finish my leftover chinese dinner. Matty your 100% right, you just cant win either way.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SkinEmAll

holy shit, i feel like im sitting in the middle of a kindergarden class as i read this. Does it really matter if he is THE best? Or isnt it good enough to know that as Matty said that someone is giving some props. Some of you put a whole lot of thought into your replys. And Im thinking to myself......hmmmm, this is a article about back-up QB's, and its like, oh nevermind, Im just gonna go finish my leftover chinese dinner. Matty your 100% right, you just cant win either way.

Fair enough, it's probably not worth the effort, but your demographic on this site is football fanatics: I don't know why you would expect anything different.

[saden1]

Who cares who the best backup is? The season is 8 days away, please pull up your skirt and get ready for some football.