Update: McCain Selects Gov. Sarah Palin as Running Mate

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Holy crap, so she wasn't married. I always thought that teaching abstinence alone was bull shit. I'll be the first to admit that I have some weird political views. I agree with the conseratives on defense and the economy. However on the social issues I'm definately more liberal including marajuanna legalization (even though I don't smoke), stem cell research (an issue that McCain supports), gay marriage (even though I'm not gay), and the banning of ID from class rooms. I still don't know what to think about abortion though right now I'm barely pro-life (51-49). However at the same time I am appaled about how conseratives want to restrict distribution of the morning after pill.

I mean a fetus reportedly feeling pain and crying during an abortion is apalling however preventing conception the day after (or minutes after if you're prepared) is a totally different story and just because some religous nutjobs are using the Bible to reconcile their beliefs doesn't mean the rest of us should suffer in a country who's social views presumeably range mainly from moderate Judeo-Christian to secular humanist (a nicer way of saying atheist or agnostic). In fact I get chills everytime I see the John McCain, Judeo-Christian speech. I wondered if he's that desperate votes or if he's really that nieve when it comes to the history of his own country.

Another funny thing I find about the Republicans and McCain is they want to stop Gay Marriage, yet their most feasable alternative to abortion, adoption, isn't helped by the fact that many foster kids (as many as 100,000 in the US) can't find a home.

Anyway back to my main point. If I read right according to a UN report the United States has some of the highest rates of teen pregnacy and abortions among first world countries especially when compared to most of Western Europe. The abstinence thing is not working and restricting access to contreception and proper sex education isn't helping.

I know some people will find issue with my post and I'm more then willing to debate so long as it doesn't lead to you calling me an idiot for no good reason or typing in all caps. And to think I use to be apathetic those were the days.

Just a side note, it's almost uncanny how aligned you and I are on the issues. I'm very to the right on foreign policy and the economy, and quite left on most social issues, with the exception of abortion. Didn't think I'd find too many people that line up so crooked like I do.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just a side note, it's almost uncanny how aligned you and I are on the issues. I'm very to the right on foreign policy and the economy, and quite left on most social issues, with the exception of abortion. Didn't think I'd find too many people that line up so crooked like I do.

That makes three of us.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just a side note, it's almost uncanny how aligned you and I are on the issues. I'm very to the right on foreign policy and the economy, and quite left on most social issues, with the exception of abortion. Didn't think I'd find too many people that line up so crooked like I do.

It's actually a more true conservative bent. Gov't = stay out of our lives...no taxes and don't tell me how tolive. I think we roll closely also. I vote mainly on who has the best cahnce not to do something insanely bad. Like raise taxes on anyone.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

It's actually a more true conservative bent. Gov't = stay out of our lives...no taxes and don't tell me how tolive. I think we roll closely also. I vote mainly on who has the best cahnce not to do something insanely bad. Like raise taxes on anyone.

I guess it's not an uncommon set of views after all!

My buddy used to say he liked to pick his presidential candidate, and then if that candidate was republican he'd vote for democrats when it came to the house and senate. And vice versa if he liked the democratic president.

His reasoning was that gridlock was the best thing possible for our government, because then nobody can do anything stupid.

Not a bad theory!

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I guess it's not an uncommon set of views after all!

My buddy used to say he liked to pick his presidential candidate, and then if that candidate was republican he'd vote for democrats when it came to the house and senate. And vice versa if he liked the democratic president.

His reasoning was that gridlock was the best thing possible for our government, because then nobody can do anything stupid.

Not a bad theory!

My theory is that all this comprmising is bad. Usually on an issue one side has the right basic premise and one side has the wrong one. When we combine those two the solution evolves to lowest common denominator and it sucks.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

My theory is that all this comprmising is bad. Usually on an issue one side has the right basic premise and one side has the wrong one. When we combine those two the solution evolves to lowest common denominator and it sucks.

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

OK, I'll do it. I'm sure we can hook the Danny up with something and get a Suite at the 40-50 yardline. The only gotcha is I must approve all WH intern hirings. I envision the WH under our watch to be similar to the Stark Enterprises plane on the way to Afghanistan.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

So basically we need you, me, Dirtbag and SS to all get elected to congress, find someone else who thinks just like us to be president, and steamroll our policies into effect.

Can we put in an earmark for us each to have season tickets to the Skins?

If I must, I must. I am pretty much in the same political boat as the rest of you. Just don't tell my family.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just a side note, it's almost uncanny how aligned you and I are on the issues. I'm very to the right on foreign policy and the economy, and quite left on most social issues, with the exception of abortion. Didn't think I'd find too many people that line up so crooked like I do.

Words can't expressed how happy I am to find that theres a group of people like me. I mean like I said before I love a lot of Democrats non-financial social policies, but the tax rates and the potential effect on a struggling economy as well as our private health care sector, in which case I'll be screwed if it takes me 6 months to see a neurologist, is to much for me to take a chance on.

(Also should have figured that Schneed would at the very least be an economic right given the work he does with the cap on this site as well as the fact that he calculates millions of dollars every year )

I honestly think that if the Republicans weren't such hard asses on minor things like gay marriage then it would be easier for people to vote for them, but instead they seem to choose not offending the extreme christian right (not attacking Christians but you're extremist cousins are not a group that I'm very fond of).

The War also didn't help their cause but I can't bring myself to disown a war that will at least give Iraq a chance to look like South Korea and Japan one day. I'll admit there seems to have been some help on the war on terror front but nearly enough to fend off the anti-war protestors. Anyway I don't know how much you guys agree with me on the war but Christopher Hitchens pretty much sums up my views on foreign policy in this video clip.



Either way I'm happy that we have now unoffically formed the conserative Bent Party aka the Crooked Party aka the Libertarians.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Just a side note, it's almost uncanny how aligned you and I are on the issues. I'm very to the right on foreign policy and the economy, and quite left on most social issues, with the exception of abortion. Didn't think I'd find too many people that line up so crooked like I do.

I'm a card carrying member of that group.