JC is not what I thought.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Hog1

And you bring a good point. They could have won!
The G's are a pretty good scoring team. They obviously scored 16 points. Our D managed to get it together to give up FG's rather than TD's. You keep NFL teams to 16 each week, you are in position to win EVERY game.
BUT, you gotta' have a little O. J.C. and company will have to do their part.

Yes. There is no way the O can essentially say to the D "we are only going to score 10 so dont let them get more than that." If the Skins could score 20 points in every game IMO they would win at least 3 out of 4.

[SBXVII]

Jason may have been bad but I have not been satisfied with our WR coach....Stan "the man" Hixon. Since we picked him up our WR couldn't shake a cold. I'm not sure what he's teaching them to do but it's not good enough.

I will say the picture of Cerrato in the press box bug eyed was priceless. Then rubbing his forehead. lol. The only thing I could think of was you made your bed now lie in it. lol.

[theJBexperience]

I think last night showed why Billy McMullen should've made the team. He has sure hands and always puts himself in a position to make a catch. He may not rack up the YAC, but he moves the chains.

[mcarey032]

I thought that they didn't run the ball enough in the first half to stop the pass rush and then they ran the ball at the end when they should have definitely been passing.

[SkinsFanSince91]

Where is this revamped offense that we were supposed to see?

The play calling seemed just like Gibbs. Run, Run, Pass, and punt.

or

Pass, Run, Run, and punt.

WE NEVER PASS ON 2ND DOWN AND THE WHOLE NFL KNOWS IT!!!!

[dmvskinzfan08]

Question. How many drives got killed by penalties? WRs and lineman dropping offsides. A couple of catches that could have been made. JC needs to improve on this quicker release. But these WRs need to run past the 1st down marker and learn to make some moves for seperation.

[DirtyLandry]

the thread title shoul be JZ is not what I thought. This is some of the worst play calling I have ever witnessed. Here I thought we had a new innovative aggresive play calling coach and we get Gibbs v2. wow.

[SC Skins Fan]

Somewhere Larry Michael's head is exploding, but this assessment from an unnamed NFL Executive in Redskin's Insider is dead on I think:

NFL Executive's Take on the Offense, Defense - Redskins Insider

The two throws Campbell looked best on were the only two deep shots he took at the very end of the game. That is why Gibbs drafted him, that is his strength. All this "he ran the WCO at Auburn his senior year" is BS. Like the guy says, he's Doug Williams he's not Steve Young. The Redskins (sorry, Vinny and Dan) made it such a priority to help Jason Campbell in their interview process but imported a system that didn't play to his strengths. You can give me the "it's only one game, give it time" thing, that's fine. I'll be happy to eat crow on this one, but let's get the opinions out there.

[Skinny Tee]

Way too much disapointment.

Campbell is not fit for this offense. Let Zorn bring in a QB he wants and lets cut the cord on Campbell.


The shy has fallen because it will take us years just to get to back to average.

[Hog1]

Listening to the Doc show earlier, he brings a good point. He basically states (and we all saw it) for JC to be in the QB business this long and be "locking" onto one reciever is ..........a problem. And he needs to "take a step", to inspire the confidence that he is The Man.
I would like to see a little of Colt in him. As raw as he is, he is GOING to make something happen-FIRE. That "playmaker" look.
JC doesn't appear to have any improvisation. No escape and evade! No improvise, adapt, and overcome.
I DO NOT advocate a QB change, but I want to see urgency!!! Montana Magic in JC

[irish]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Listening to the Doc show earlier, he brings a good point. He basically states (and we all saw it) for JC to be in the QB business this long and be "locking" onto one reciever is ..........a problem. And he needs to "take a step", to inspire the confidence that he is The Man.
I would like to see a little of Colt in him. As raw as he is, he is GOING to make something happen-FIRE. That "playmaker" look.
JC doesn't appear to have any improvisation. No escape and evade! No improvise, adapt, and overcome.
I DO NOT advocate a QB change, but I want to see urgency!!! Montana Magic in JC

I heard that and agree. When Zorn was a QB he had lots of improvise, escape & evade and I am 100% convinced that he has seen enough of JC to know he will never have that. Its as if after being a pro for 4 years JC has not even progressed on the simple things like not locking on. I think JC is at the max end of his skills. He isnt going to get much better. Like you I am not advocating a QB change now (maybe next season, we'll see) but I think Zorn is working hard to find a way to minimize the negative effects JC will have on the O.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by irish

I heard that and agree. When Zorn was a QB he had lots of improvise, escape & evade and I am 100% convinced that he has seen enough of JC to know he will never have that. Its as if after being a pro for 4 years JC has not even progressed on the simple things like not locking on. I think JC is at the max end of his skills. He isnt going to get much better. Like you I am not advocating a QB change now (maybe next season, we'll see) but I think Zorn is working hard to find a way to minimize the negative effects JC will have on the O.

I'm not entirely sure why you included that adendum at the beginning, but Jim Zorn the player would not fit in Jim Zorn's offense. He threw 30 more INTs than TDs, had more TDs than INTs in a season twice in 11 years, never completed more than 60% of his passes, and finished with a career QB rating of 67.3. I'm not sure that is what we are looking for. I don't exactly know what the great plan is for the QB switch. Collins hasn't exactly lit it up in the preseason and I'm assuming you're not calling for Colt Brennan. Maybe things will turn around, but from where we stand now Vinny and Dan are on their way to going 2 for 2 in ruining first round QBs.

Jim Zorn

[irish]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

I'm not entirely sure why you included that adendum at the beginning, but Jim Zorn the player would not fit in Jim Zorn's offense. He threw 30 more INTs than TDs, had more TDs than INTs in a season twice in 11 years, never completed more than 60% of his passes, and finished with a career QB rating of 67.3. I'm not sure that is what we are looking for. I don't exactly know what the great plan is for the QB switch. Collins hasn't exactly lit it up in the preseason and I'm assuming you're not calling for Colt Brennan. Maybe things will turn around, but from where we stand now Vinny and Dan are on their way to going 2 for 2 in ruining first round QBs.

Jim Zorn

I dont think Vinny & Dan have anything to do with ruining 1st round QBs. The blame goes to the coaches but IMO, JC and PR were not 1st round material.

If Colt becomes the starting QB this season then the season is finished. I do think that this is a make or break season for JC and if he doesnt do it I think Colt will have a real chance to be the starter next year.

[Skinny Tee]

JC is not panning the field when he's dropping back. I think that is what pissed Cooley off last night because he wasn't looking for anybody but the guy he locked on to.

I liked Campbell when Gibbs was the head coach but now that we have a different coach/system my new evaluation is that I want a change at the QB spot.

[doughtydoubter]

This is some of the worst play calling I have ever witnessed. Here I thought we had a new innovative aggresive play calling coach and we get Gibbs v2. wow.

I think you are right on with that one dirty....we need an aggressive attac offense with innovation not a lets run between the tackles and dump it short of the sticks and hope the recievers can make the ¥ard..boo to that....boo..