JC is not what I thought.

[SBXVII]

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Originally Posted by cpayne5
There's much more to it than the play of your QB. JC didn't look great tonight, but name me someone who did who wasn't returning kicks. JC gets a pass in my book until it becomes obvious that he is the weakest link.

Portis, Fletcher, Brooks.


Burress, Jacobs, Tuck......

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

There's much more to it than the play of your QB. JC didn't look great tonight, but name me someone who did who wasn't returning kicks. JC gets a pass in my book until it becomes obvious that he is the weakest link.

QBs are leaders. They lead the team.. he doesn't do that, period. He's a wimp that has no confidence. UGH!!! ...

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

QBs are leaders. They lead the team.. he doesn't do that, period. He's a wimp that has no confidence. UGH!!! ...

Brunell was a great leader. He must have been a great QB.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Brunell was a great leader. He must have been a great QB.

All I have to say to this is that Brunell got us to the second round ofthe playoffs and he threw DEEP to Moss SEVERAL times!!! The only thing that hindered him was age and injury.. not stupidity.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

All I have to say to this is that Brunell got us to the second round ofthe playoffs and he threw DEEP to Moss SEVERAL times!!! The only thing that hindered him was age and injury.. not stupidity.

It's naive to think that JC's problem is a lack of intelligence.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

There's much more to it than the play of your QB. JC didn't look great tonight, but name me someone who did who wasn't returning kicks. JC gets a pass in my book until it becomes obvious that he is the weakest link.

The one the only Chris Wilson MOFO. HAHA

[celts32]

JC didn't lose this game. We got whipped on both lines of scrimmage.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by celts32

JC didn't lose this game. We got whipped on both lines of scrimmage.

Eli seemed to get his passes off when undeg pressure. The first sack JC wandered right into his coverage not away from it like a natural QB should do.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Eli seemed to get his passes off when undeg pressure. The first sack JC wandered right into his coverage not away from it like a natural QB should do.

Plaxico was also getting open on every play too. That helps.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Eli seemed to get his passes off when undeg pressure. The first sack JC wandered right into his coverage not away from it like a natural QB should do.

exactly,you hit the nail on the head,I've been cutting jc slack when hes been under a lot of pressure for not completing his passes,but how many times tonite did Eli make great throws when pressured? granted he did throw 1 int from the pressure,but he made plays.JC has got to be able to make plays when he's under pressure,{McNabbs done it his whole career}this is the nfl and rarely do you have the luxury of Tom Bradys protection

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

exactly,you hit the nail on the head,I've been cutting jc slack when hes been under a lot of pressure for not completing his passes,but how many times tonite did Eli make great throws when pressured? granted he did throw 1 int from the pressure,but he made plays.JC has got to be able to make plays when he's under pressure,{McNabbs done it his whole career}this is the nfl and rarely do you have the luxury of Tom Bradys protection

Eli made some good throws, no doubt about it. Eli also threw a lot of passes that should've been intercepted. In fact, our secondary dropped a few INTs. He also has the luxury of the same offensive line that protected for him last year in every single game. He also has the luxury of playing in the same offense as he did last year as well. Not taking anything away from Manning though, he made the plays when he was supposed to, and Campbell looked lost. I certainly expect Campbell improve and have this system down pat by the end of the year. If not, give someone else a shot.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

exactly,you hit the nail on the head,I've been cutting jc slack when hes been under a lot of pressure for not completing his passes,but how many times tonite did Eli make great throws when pressured? granted he did throw 1 int from the pressure,but he made plays.JC has got to be able to make plays when he's under pressure,{McNabbs done it his whole career}this is the nfl and rarely do you have the luxury of Tom Bradys protection

Eli has Plax as a receiver, and there were some throws that Plax saved Eli by making a catch or just using his size advantage.

[dmvskinzfan08]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

exactly,you hit the nail on the head,I've been cutting jc slack when hes been under a lot of pressure for not completing his passes,but how many times tonite did Eli make great throws when pressured? granted he did throw 1 int from the pressure,but he made plays.JC has got to be able to make plays when he's under pressure,{McNabbs done it his whole career}this is the nfl and rarely do you have the luxury of Tom Bradys protection

Oh lets fire him becaus ehe ran into a sack.. Myabe the O-line should have blocked his man better. They need to let Jason run a littl ebit to atleast to pick up a first down..instead of making him be staionary in the pocket all the time..I remember a few plays where he ran for first down last year. Now it's like Zorn wants him to stand still in the pocket. The wide receivers need to produce more seperation. JC needs to read the defenses better. But if nothing is there that's why he is goign to the receiver that is underneath. He dind't play great. But we can't pin all this on JC. The playcalling sucked. The WRs sucked. Everyone sucked besides the defense in the second half and brooks..

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by celts32

JC didn't lose this game. We got whipped on both lines of scrimmage.

We lost by nine points, if we got average qb play, we could have won.

[SUNRA]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

We lost by nine points, if we got average qb play, we could have won.

Very true. Campbell will not run the ball and he certainly doesn't make his reads. But Zorn is the blame for underutilizing Cooley, Betts and Sellers in the offense. Where in the hell was Fred Davis to help with pass protection?