JC is not what I thought.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Brunell was a great leader. He must have been a great QB.

All I have to say to this is that Brunell got us to the second round ofthe playoffs and he threw DEEP to Moss SEVERAL times!!! The only thing that hindered him was age and injury.. not stupidity.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

All I have to say to this is that Brunell got us to the second round ofthe playoffs and he threw DEEP to Moss SEVERAL times!!! The only thing that hindered him was age and injury.. not stupidity.

It's naive to think that JC's problem is a lack of intelligence.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

It's naive to think that JC's problem is a lack of intelligence.

It's naive to thinks it's not. He has all the talent in the world but he can't put two and two together...

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

It's naive to thinks it's not. He has all the talent in the world but he can't put two and two together...

So, with JC out from behind center, this team is a Super Bowl contender?

[irish]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

So, with JC out from behind center, this team is a Super Bowl contender?

With or without JC under center this team is not a SB contender.

Its not all JC's fault. He has an old slow o line that doesnt give him the time he needs. He also has midget receivers and that makes it tough. JC is just one part of a fundamentally flawed team.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by irish

With or without JC under center this team is not a SB contender.

Its not all JC's fault. He has an old slow o line that doesnt give him the time he needs. He also has midget receivers and that makes it tough. JC is just one part of a fundamentally flawed team.

Good post, irish, but I'm not sure I'd use the term fundamentally flawed.

If there is a fundamentally flawed unit on the team, it's the offensive line. They weren't good in pass pro last season and probably won't be any better this season. But Campbell is a ticking time bomb waiting to explode onto the scene, and the defense is almost as good as it was last year.

[HogHeaven]

Originally Posted by irish

With or without JC under center this team is not a SB contender.

Its not all JC's fault. He has an old slow o line that doesnt give him the time he needs. He also has midget receivers and that makes it tough. JC is just one part of a fundamentally flawed team.

All the more reason to know the offense and get rid of the ball. The first play of the damn game should've been an incomplete pass out of bounds. Chuck it, don't hold it for a sack.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by HogHeaven

All the more reason to know the offense and get rid of the ball. The first play of the damn game should've been an incomplete pass out of bounds. Chuck it, don't hold it for a sack.

That was 100% on Campbell, but if we are going to note that, we should point out that the pass rushing demons on the DL did not sack Campbell the rest of the game, which shows that JC improved, because the pass blocking did struggle all night.

[HogHeaven]

New poster here, just stumbled on a link to this forum. If you give up on JC now, you might as well cut him. Holding the ball too long, POOR clock management, etc, etc. It's going to take more than one game for me to put him on the bench. Bring in Colt? There goes the season.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by HogHeaven

All the more reason to know the offense and get rid of the ball. The first play of the damn game should've been an incomplete pass out of bounds. Chuck it, don't hold it for a sack.

I could be wrong but I think JC was inside the tackle box on that play so he couldn't have thrown it away without getting a penalty.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

So, with JC out from behind center, this team is a Super Bowl contender?

How did you come up with that? Did I say we would be Super Bowl bound if JC was gone? Nope, I didn't. But do I think we will win games if he's gone? ... YES! ..

I give him until game 5 for Zorn to make the call to bench him (if he continues to do poorly).