Redskins vs. Giants Game Thread 9/4/08

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

QBs set the tone, they run the offense.. he does NOT do that AT ALL. He sits and wonders and looks.. and then he throws.. You need a QB to lead and make plays and BE YOUR MAN. He's a sorry damn excuse for a QB.. ....

I'm obvioulsy not happy.. actually I'm PISSED. BENCH HIS ASS!

Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.

You mean never, right?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

You mean never, right?

Pretty much.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Hess it's plain as day you just don't like JC. For what ever reason. It's seems personal with you. If you watched the damn game you'd realize that some of the time wr's were not open. Some of the stuff was on him cause he needs to learn to come off to his 2nd and 3rd guys. Some of the time our o-line was being killed. Other times the wr's were running 6 yard patterns when it's 3-8. Some of it is on the coaching cause they should've had him in shotgun. Even though JC needs to play better, tonight was certainly not 100% on JC. But I'm sure you just want to blame it all on him cause you just don't like the guy.

Give me a break. The only one that is taking this personal is the people that love JC and hate when I call him out. Why would it be personal for me? I don't know the guy.. and I all I want is for the Skins to win. I watch him play and he makes bad chioces. I see it time and again, and I watch every game. Other QBs have his issues with players and still seem to find a way to get that ball where it needs to be. If you all think JC is our guy, you have a VERY long road ahead.. a lot of loss and a lot of up and down BS games is what we have ahead of us. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. You all don't like it, but that's what I see. It's not personal, it's just my opinion based on what I SEE. Football isn't personal, it's a game, a sport and something I love to watch. But it's a hell of a lot more fun to watch when we have a QB that knows what the heck to do!

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Give me a break. The only one that is taking this personal is the people that love JC and hate when I call him out. Why would it be personal for me? I don't know the guy.. and I all I want is for the Skins to win. I watch him play and he makes bad chioces. I see it time and again, and I watch every game. Other QBs have his issues with players and still seem to find a way to get that ball where it needs to be. If you all think JC is our guy, you have a VERY long road ahead.. a lot of loss and a lot of up and down BS games is what we have ahead of us. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. You all don't like it, but that's what I see. It's not personal, it's just my opinion based on what I SEE. Football isn't personal, it's a game, a sport and something I love to watch. But it's a hell of a lot more fun to watch when we have a QB that knows what the heck to do!

Give JC a break, how many OC's has he had in the last 7 years? Would you rather start slow ass Collins (who would have been killed) or green as an apple Colt. Be realistic, JC is our one and only choice for this season.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Give JC a break, how many OC's has he had in the last 7 years? Would you rather start slow ass Collins (who would have been killed) or green as an apple Colt. Be realistic, JC is our one and only choice for this season.

Yes, I'd rather start Collins..

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Yes, I'd rather start Collins..

If this kind of performance continues, so would I. Collins may be molasses but he has an accurate arm and good vision. Too bad it turns noodle when he has to throw a bomb but in a WCO system, you don't have to worry about that too much.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Yes, I'd rather start Collins..

He looked lost and slow during the pre-season. He'd probably be more lost than Campbell grasping the Paul Brown offense (I hate the term WCO)

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

He looked lost and slow during the pre-season. He'd probably be more lost than Campbell grasping the Paul Brown offense (I hate the term WCO)

If we're in week 10 and we're sitting at 3-7 I would like to see Colt in there.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

If we're in week 10 and we're sitting at 3-7 I would like to see Colt in there.

Well looking at the schedule, based upon tonight's performance, which games do you think we'll win and lose throughout the season?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

Give me a break. The only one that is taking this personal is the people that love JC and hate when I call him out. Why would it be personal for me? I don't know the guy.. and I all I want is for the Skins to win. I watch him play and he makes bad chioces. I see it time and again, and I watch every game. Other QBs have his issues with players and still seem to find a way to get that ball where it needs to be. If you all think JC is our guy, you have a VERY long road ahead.. a lot of loss and a lot of up and down BS games is what we have ahead of us. He just doesn't have what it takes to be a top QB in the NFL. You all don't like it, but that's what I see. It's not personal, it's just my opinion based on what I SEE. Football isn't personal, it's a game, a sport and something I love to watch. But it's a hell of a lot more fun to watch when we have a QB that knows what the heck to do!

I'm not saying he's our guy and he needs to play better. But time after time after time you're just killing the guy when there are other people to blame. That shows me it's personal with you. He didn't play poorly last year or the year before. He's been about average. What were you expecting with a new coach, another new offense, a bad pass blocking line and wr's that are not all that good? Do you think he's good enough to carry us through all that against the Giants defense which shut down NE? Keep it real would you! As far as scoring points is concerned, our offense isn't that good, and it hasn't been the past several years.

In one of your other posts you're calling out Carlos R. but you have to realize that he's coming off a very serious injury and he really shouldn't even be out there. His type of injury takes 12 months to recover from and he's covering Plax. Buress one on one????? Sorry but you just can't ask him to do that. Springs should've been covering him but he couldn't play cause his calf hurt.

I don't have a problem with you calling people out. Just make sure you call out the right guys and have a reason behind it.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'm not saying he's our guy and he needs to play better. But time after time after time you're just killing the guy when there are other people to blame. That shows me it's personal with you. He didn't play poorly last year or the year before. He's been about average. What were you expecting with a new coach, another new offense, a bad pass blocking line and wr's that are not all that good? Do you think he's good enough to carry us through all that against the Giants defense which shut down NE? Keep it real would you! As far as scoring points is concerned, our offense isn't that good, and it hasn't been the past several years.

In one of your other posts you're calling out Carlos R. but you have to realize that he's coming off a very serious injury and he really shouldn't even be out there. His type of injury takes 12 months to recover from and he's covering Plax. Buress one on one????? Sorry but you just can't ask him to do that. Springs should've been covering him but he couldn't play cause his calf hurt.

I don't have a problem with you calling people out. Just make sure you call out the right guys and have a reason behind it.

Great post.

[SFREDSKIN]

Things will change when Thomas and Kelly grasp the offense (even if it's 60%) and Fred Davis is thrown in the mix. That's 3 weapons we will gain that didn't play tonight, it might make a difference.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Things will change when Thomas and Kelly grasp the offense (even if it's 60%) and Fred Davis is thrown in the mix. That's 3 weapons we will gain that didn't play tonight, it might make a difference.

Thomas was out there. Albeit, not very much.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Thomas was out there. Albeit, not very much.

I know, but he's just like in his 3rd pre-season game experience wise and Kelly hasn't hit camp yet.