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Old 09-07-2008, 11:10 AM   #1
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Campbell scored a 14 the first time he took the Wonderlic and a 28 the 2nd time. Still, it's a little offensive that some seem to be insinuating he's not smart enough to play.
I believe it was a 14, 27 & 28. I'm also glad to see I'm not the only one who finds it offensive that people keep insulting his intellect.
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Old 09-07-2008, 03:14 PM   #2
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I believe it was a 14, 27 & 28. I'm also glad to see I'm not the only one who finds it offensive that people keep insulting his intellect.
It takes 2-3 years to learn an offense. You see how Brett Favre had trouble when he went to the Jets ( I guess he's not intelligent either). Imagine JC having to go through that every year. People need to cut the crap and stop being so critical of JC without knowing all the facts or atleast trying to be students of the games and drop their biases and be realistic. Its the first freaking game!!
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:19 PM   #3
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It takes 2-3 years to learn an offense. You see how Brett Favre had trouble when he went to the Jets ( I guess he's not intelligent either). Imagine JC having to go through that every year. People need to cut the crap and stop being so critical of JC without knowing all the facts or atleast trying to be students of the games and drop their biases and be realistic. Its the first freaking game!!

Farve won today.

The question about intellect goes to Campbell's ability to learn new systems.

I base my criticism primarily on his inability to increase on steady basis his QB rating.


If this were one game, people would not be upset, I believe. Going back to last year, he's lost five out of six games he finished, NOT counting the preseason this year.

Seems to be a pattern.

That's our concern, not the last game, the last 8-10 games, overall.

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Farve won today.

The question about intellect goes to Campbell's ability to learn new systems.

I base my criticism primarily on his inability to increase on steady basis his QB rating.


If this were one game, people would not be upset, I believe. Going back to last year, he's lost five out of six games he finished, NOT counting the preseason this year.

Seems to be a pattern.

That's our concern, not the last game, the last 8-10 games, overall.

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How is it a pattern when he won 5 of 8 games to start last year?

Jason Campbell Gamelogs and Game Logs - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Give it time people.
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Old 09-07-2008, 06:43 PM   #5
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Give it time people.

I think that is key.


Everyone should step back, let the season progress, see where we are at the end of the season not the beginning.

Time will tell.


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Old 09-07-2008, 06:58 PM   #6
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I think that is key.


Everyone should step back, let the season progress, see where we are at the end of the season not the beginning.

Time will tell.


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You mean regress?

I'm not optimistic if you can't tell. The egg we laid on THU was too huge to think it's going up from here.
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You mean regress?

I'm not optimistic if you can't tell. The egg we laid on THU was too huge to think it's going up from here.
Look at the Giants last yr. They lost their first 2 games and were down 14 at the half on the road against us to be 0-3 and look how that turned out. It was the play calling that hurt us. Campbell did a terrible job with his reads.. staring down his receiver.. BUT our offense could have been played in a phone booth.. no passes over ten yards.. hopefully we pick up the pace next week. Im not ready to throw in the towel.
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Farve won today.

The question about intellect goes to Campbell's ability to learn new systems.


I base my criticism primarily on his inability to increase on steady basis his QB rating.


If this were one game, people would not be upset, I believe. Going back to last year, he's lost five out of six games he finished, NOT counting the preseason this year.

Seems to be a pattern.

That's our concern, not the last game, the last 8-10 games, overall.

J-Dawg.
Favre has also been a pro QB for how many years now? At least 11 or 12?

If he can't pick up new systems by now then he should've given up years ago.

I'm still not ready to throw in the towel on JC. I've got to give him at least till week 4. If he's still performing this poorly, then I'd start re-evaluating whether or not he's cut out to be a number 1.
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Favre has also been a pro QB for how many years now? At least 11 or 12?

If he can't pick up new systems by now then he should've given up years ago.

I'm still not ready to throw in the towel on JC. I've got to give him at least till week 4. If he's still performing this poorly, then I'd start re-evaluating whether or not he's cut out to be a number 1.
I'm not optimistic, but I've seen new coaches go 0-5 in their first year do well later.

I am very pessimisitic, but I do believe we need to allow a while to see if JC can be a true NFL qb, and how Zorn does.

I've had my opinions been proven wrong by history before, so I am prepared to have that happen again.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

(I've invested about $14,000 in season tix so far under Dan Snyder, and seen exactly zero playoff games.)

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I'm not optimistic, but I've seen new coaches go 0-5 in their first year do well later.

I am very pessimisitic, but I do believe we need to allow a while to see if JC can be a true NFL qb, and how Zorn does.

I've had my opinions been proven wrong by history before, so I am prepared to have that happen again.

I'd love to be proven wrong.

(I've invested about $14,000 in season tix so far under Dan Snyder, and seen exactly zero playoff games.)

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If I was you and was paying that much money, I'd demand a refund. lol
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If I was you and was paying that much money, I'd demand a refund. lol

He'd charge a fee for the privledge of asking for a refund, and then he'd say no.

Appreciate the sympathy, though.

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Farve won today.

The question about intellect goes to Campbell's ability to learn new systems.

I base my criticism primarily on his inability to increase on steady basis his QB rating.


If this were one game, people would not be upset, I believe. Going back to last year, he's lost five out of six games he finished, NOT counting the preseason this year.

Seems to be a pattern.

That's our concern, not the last game, the last 8-10 games, overall.

J-Dawg.
How long has Favre been in the league? The point of what I am saying even he said he had problems picking up the new offense and jargon. Yeah JC lost all those games by himself.

He was playing o-line..WR and defense..very versatile dude..lol
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Old 09-09-2008, 01:49 PM   #13
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Everyone puts the blam eon Jason. But I am telling you this..These WRs need to get OPEN. ON the highlight real reel on a couple of those dump offs.. I clearly see Jason looking down feel and going through his progressions and seeing nothing. Then dumping the pass off.
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