Redskins-Giants: Offensive Review

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the whole team has to step it up to contribute to those improvements right (not just Campbell and Rogers)? Either way, do you understand why what you just wrote there has more weight than a lot of the other posts we have seen here in recent days?

I often call out JC and Rogers because they suck more often than they don’t suck, and the frustration level is overwhelming with them.

I think you all need be aware that I keep the majority of my posts short and sweet for fear of being steamed rolled by the mob. You guys aren't exactly open to differing opinions, nor do you make those that have them feel welcome.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I often call out JC and Rogers because they suck more often than they don’t suck, and the frustration level is overwhelming with them.

I think you all need be aware that I keep the majority of my posts short and sweet for fear of being steamed rolled by the mob. You guys aren't exactly open to differing opinions, nor do you make those that have them feel welcome.

Don't confuse differing opinions with worthless, unsubstantiated opinions.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I often call out JC and Rogers because they suck more often than they don’t suck, and the frustration level is overwhelming with them.

I think you all need be aware that I keep the majority of my posts short and sweet for fear of being steamed rolled by the mob. You guys aren't exactly open to differing opinions, nor do you make those that have them feel welcome.

Not true. It's opinions that lack real substance and are reactionary/emotional in nature that we don't appreciate. We're just trying to prevent this place from becoming ES.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not true. It's opinions that lack real substance and are reactionary/emotional in nature that we don't appreciate. We're just trying to prevent this place from becoming ES.

Well to be fair JC has been our QB for several years and I can easly see how people can come to the opinion that he is not an NFL QB. I myself have that big ? in my mind but am willing to give him the chance to prove other wise this year. Its just some of the things he has done in both the WC and Saunders systems that have carried over and he is not improving on.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well to be fair JC has been our QB for several years and I can easly see how people can come to the opinion that he is not an NFL QB. I myself have that big ? in my mind but am willing to give him the chance to prove other wise this year. Its just some of the things he has done in both the WC and Saunders systems that have carried over and he is not improving on.

This is his 2nd full season as the starter.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by hesscl34

I often call out JC and Rogers because they suck more often than they don’t suck, and the frustration level is overwhelming with them.

Some starters who suck more often than JC and Carlos Rogers:

Santana Moss
Antwaan Randle El
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Rocky McIntosh
Reed Doughty
Fred Smoot

And there are others that are debatable, but the point is that people don't spend a whole lot of time and effort clammering for the replacement of said players. Part of that because a handful of them (Doughty, McIntosh) are young and might improve (like JC and Rogers), but mostly it's because even the people who think that the fan base overrates those seven players realize that they are in most cases the best option we have at their respective positions, and that as fans of the Redskins, we might as well get behind them and hope for their success.

It's somewhat sad that you don't share this mindset with two young players that are critical to the long term success of the franchise, but I guess it's your opinion that we should cut bait with them now and start rebuilding.

[hesscl34]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Some starters who suck more often than JC and Carlos Rogers:

Santana Moss
Antwaan Randle El
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Rocky McIntosh
Reed Doughty
Fred Smoot

And there are others that are debatable, but the point is that people don't spend a whole lot of time and effort clammering for the replacement of said players. Part of that because a handful of them (Doughty, McIntosh) are young and might improve (like JC and Rogers), but mostly it's because even the people who think that the fan base overrates those seven players realize that they are in most cases the best option we have at their respective positions, and that as fans of the Redskins, we might as well get behind them and hope for their success.

It's somewhat sad that you don't share this mindset with two young players that are critical to the long term success of the franchise, but I guess it's your opinion that we should cut bait with them now and start rebuilding.

Sorry you think it's sad. I think it's reality. I don't think Rogers is our "best option" in that position. I'd prefer to have Springs and Smoot out there together, and have Rogers be a back up regularly. But we've needed to upgrade that position with fresh players for a while now. As far as JC goes, I will have hope until game 5. If we continue to lose and he continues to look terrible losing, then he's done in my mind. I'm not ready to cut them loose... but I am ready to call them out.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Some starters who suck more often than JC and Carlos Rogers:

Santana Moss
Antwaan Randle El
Mike Sellers
Casey Rabach
Rocky McIntosh
Reed Doughty
Fred Smoot

And there are others that are debatable, but the point is that people don't spend a whole lot of time and effort clammering for the replacement of said players. Part of that because a handful of them (Doughty, McIntosh) are young and might improve (like JC and Rogers), but mostly it's because even the people who think that the fan base overrates those seven players realize that they are in most cases the best option we have at their respective positions, and that as fans of the Redskins, we might as well get behind them and hope for their success.

It's somewhat sad that you don't share this mindset with two young players that are critical to the long term success of the franchise, but I guess it's your opinion that we should cut bait with them now and start rebuilding.

I completely agree regarding Mike Sellers. Has this guy ever finished off a block in his life? I know the fans love him because once or twice a year he posterizes some poor DB, but just watch him closely for a whole series and tell me he isn't going through the motions.