Vince Young 'hurting inside'

[SmootSmack]

I think the thread title is a bit extreme.

As for Young (and Leinart and Alex Smith), I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in your mid 20's and feel like everything you've worked for practically your entire life is already being seen as a failure and that your career is flatlining. I mean, I'm 32 and I feel like my life and career are just getting started.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the thread title is a bit extreme.

As for Young (and Leinart and Alex Smith), I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in your mid 20's and feel like everything you've worked for practically your entire life is already being seen as a failure and that your career is flatlining. I mean, I'm 32 and I feel like my life and career are just getting started.

Leinart still has a bright future ahead of him IMO. Warner is just a better QB right now. But Leinart can play in the NFL. I don't think Alex Smith can. Smith just doesn't have the ability.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Leinart still has a bright future ahead of him IMO. Warner is just a better QB right now. But Leinart can play in the NFL. I don't think Alex Smith can. Smith just doesn't have the ability.

Agreed.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the thread title is a bit extreme.

As for Young (and Leinart and Alex Smith), I can't imagine what it must feel like to be in your mid 20's and feel like everything you've worked for practically your entire life is already being seen as a failure and that your career is flatlining. I mean, I'm 32 and I feel like my life and career are just getting started.

Exactly. I like how so many here (and elsewhere) are so quick to cast stones without having any idea of the situation. He could have actual mental health issues or it could be nothing or whatever. Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason. Of course if people on a message board were drawing snap conclusions about a Redskin (Sean Taylor) I'm sure no one here would raise a fuss or anything. Just another example of our cultural obsession with celebrity.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Exactly. I like how so many here (and elsewhere) are so quick to cast stones without having any idea of the situation. He could have actual mental health issues or it could be nothing or whatever. Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason. Of course if people on a message board were drawing snap conclusions about a Redskin (Sean Taylor) I'm sure no one here would raise a fuss or anything. Just another example of our cultural obsession with celebrity.

Excellent post. My thoughts exactly.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason.

You are absolutely right that athletes owe US nothing, but VY signed a multi-million dollar contract with the Titans to perform as a QB to the best of his ability for the term of that contract. By signing his contract he has to accept the responsibility to the Titans that goes along with it and not shut-down the minute things go sideways.

I think VY can be a solid NFL QB, but he needs to get a thicker skin and understand that he's going to need to work very hard at technique and in the filmroom. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience and comes back a better and more mature player.

[rypper11]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You are absolutely right that athletes owe US nothing, but VY signed a multi-million dollar contract with the Titans to perform as a QB to the best of his ability for the term of that contract. By signing his contract he has to accept the responsibility to the Titans that goes along with it and not shut-down the minute things go sideways.

I think VY can be a solid NFL QB, but he needs to get a thicker skin and understand that he's going to need to work very hard at technique and in the filmroom. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience and comes back a better and more mature player.

Exactly. If he wants to let his mommy rock him to sleep and go get a job with zero pressures or responsibility, fine (some days that seems like a pretty good life to me too). But then give back the money he took for the services he no longer wants to provide. And that applies to his endorsements as well. Now, if he tries his best but for whatever reason busts out, then good for him for getting what he could. But quitting because he realized that he has no testicular fortitude? Please.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

You are absolutely right that athletes owe US nothing, but VY signed a multi-million dollar contract with the Titans to perform as a QB to the best of his ability for the term of that contract. By signing his contract he has to accept the responsibility to the Titans that goes along with it and not shut-down the minute things go sideways.

I think VY can be a solid NFL QB, but he needs to get a thicker skin and understand that he's going to need to work very hard at technique and in the filmroom. Hopefully he takes this as a learning experience and comes back a better and more mature player.

You're absolutely right.
However, while I do feel they owe us nothing, if not for us, they would not have that lucrative contract. We are the reason they are in business.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Exactly. I like how so many here (and elsewhere) are so quick to cast stones without having any idea of the situation. He could have actual mental health issues or it could be nothing or whatever. Athletes owe you nothing, and just because you think you would like nothing more than to spend one day in their shoes does not give you the right to decry them if they don't want to play for whatever reason. Of course if people on a message board were drawing snap conclusions about a Redskin (Sean Taylor) I'm sure no one here would raise a fuss or anything. Just another example of our cultural obsession with celebrity.

SC bringing it as usual. There have been reports for sometime that Young was unhappy and it is very possible he is suffering with clinical depression as a result of the negative scrutiny he has received, or perhaps a million other things. Maybe a friend died. Who knows? But I am stunned by the lack of compassion so many of you seem to have for someone who is suffering, while going through a legitimately tough situation. Mental health is a serious medical issue in this country, a serious drain on productivity at work, and a destroyer of families.

As SC said, maybe it is nothing at all; but let's hold off ruthlessly judging someone else until we have all the facts.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

SC bringing it as usual. There have been reports for sometime that Young was unhappy and it is very possible he is suffering with clinical depression as a result of the negative scrutiny he has received, or perhaps a million other things. Maybe a friend died. Who knows? But I am stunned by the lack of compassion so many of you seem to have for someone who is suffering, while going through a legitimately tough situation. Mental health is a serious medical issue in this country, a serious drain on productivity at work, and a destroyer of families.

As SC said, maybe it is nothing at all; but let's hold off ruthlessly judging someone else until we have all the facts.

While your points are all well taken, and IT IS a Damn shame........He's Done in Nashville. I promise you he will be a locker room problem (as he has had a number of questionable things happen over the years) in the leadership category, and I fully believe Collins will seal the deal by making the offense better, as Skinsfan pointed out.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Hog1

While your points are all well taken, and IT IS a Damn shame........He's Done in Nashville. I promise you he will be a locker room problem (as he has had a number of questionable things happen over the years) in the leadership category, and I fully believe Collins will seal the deal by making the offense better, as Skinsfan pointed out.

It definitely appears to be unraveling pretty quickly. But I never knew him to be a locker room problem. Can you elaborate on that?

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

It definitely appears to be unraveling pretty quickly. But I never knew him to be a locker room problem. Can you elaborate on that?

He really has not been except, he has missed a team plane, has spoken publicly about retiring, stated that football was not that much fun anymore, etc. His mom did not help!!!
I think the other guys will have problems believing in him. That's the potential locker room problem.
I cannot believe the team would act so forcefully....foolishly without cause(by notifying the police of his absence) as these are guys that deal with serious health issues/problems regularly.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Hog1

He really has not been except, he has missed a team plane, has spoken publicly about retiring, stated that football was not that much fun anymore, etc. His mom did not help!!!
I think the other guys will have problems believing in him. That's the potential locker room problem.
I cannot believe the team would act so forcefully....foolishly without cause(by notifying the police of his absence) as these are guys that deal with serious health issues/problems regularly.

It was my understanding that the Titans reacted that way based on the phone call they received from Vince's family members. Someone was obviously overly concerned about him. Or not. It could be that they in fact did not overreact at all, and they're totally downplaying the situation to back off the media while they figure out how to deal with a mentally very unstable individual. Just a suggestion. It could be the case.