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Old 09-11-2008, 10:33 AM   #1
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What crap has Obama himself slung?
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:45 AM   #2
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What crap has Obama himself slung?
Who are you talking to? Can't be me cause I never once said Obama slung anything. I said left.

ps- this thread is about the assumption that McCain slung from the right, and we all know that isn't true. It's an overreaction from the right. Left does not = Obama. Right does not = McCain.
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Old 09-11-2008, 11:02 AM   #3
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What crap has Obama himself slung?
It's naive and dishonest to assert that unless something comes from Obama it doesn't matter. Each side is now a massive political machine involving thousands of people who constantly work to discredit the other side. Most of these people can't even be controlled by the party leaders in any real way.

Bloggers sit behind a computer and throw bombs all day long. Think Obama or McCain can stop it? I doubt it.

Every major politician has at least 4 or 5 senior advisors. Think those people just fall in line when a party leader says to do something? No. They are looking out for their own ass first then thier boss's and then maybe the party.

All this crap has to end up in someone's lap. That's why even though Obama hasn't been the one out there throwing bombs about Palin it ends in his lap. Same for McCain.
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It's naive and dishonest to assert that unless something comes from Obama it doesn't matter. Each side is now a massive political machine involving thousands of people who constantly work to discredit the other side. Most of these people can't even be controlled by the party leaders in any real way.

Bloggers sit behind a computer and throw bombs all day long. Think Obama or McCain can stop it? I doubt it.

Every major politician has at least 4 or 5 senior advisors. Think those people just fall in line when a party leader says to do something? No. They are looking out for their own ass first then thier boss's and then maybe the party.

All this crap has to end up in someone's lap. That's why even though Obama hasn't been the one out there throwing bombs about Palin it ends in his lap. Same for McCain.
Excellent points all around.

It really serves to highlight that, when all is said and done, all the anger, vitriol and hate is directed at one guy who's probably not really responsible for it anyway.

It's a widespread system or machine, not one lone guy. That's why I maintain that the best thing for this country to do as a whole is put a lot more focus on the legislative and judicial branches than the executive branch.

The executive branch so often gets reduced and simplified to one man. This country is about a LOT more than one guy sitting in the Oval Office.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:13 PM   #5
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Excellent points all around.

It really serves to highlight that, when all is said and done, all the anger, vitriol and hate is directed at one guy who's probably not really responsible for it anyway.

It's a widespread system or machine, not one lone guy. That's why I maintain that the best thing for this country to do as a whole is put a lot more focus on the legislative and judicial branches than the executive branch.

The executive branch so often gets reduced and simplified to one man. This country is about a LOT more than one guy sitting in the Oval Office.

Yup it is so true! We are not electing the king of England here. There are many other moving parts, people just get so stuck on one person to blame or praise.
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Old 09-11-2008, 02:20 PM   #6
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Yup it is so true! We are not electing the king of England here. There are many other moving parts, people just get so stuck on one person to blame or praise.
It's the same reason everyone bitches about the QB on a football team: it's just easier to pin all the blame on one guy and ignore the far more complex issues within the entire system.

Bush bad...Obama muslim...McCain old...

Sounds like a bunch of idiot cavemen wandering around moaning the party mantra.
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Excellent points all around.

It really serves to highlight that, when all is said and done, all the anger, vitriol and hate is directed at one guy who's probably not really responsible for it anyway.

It's a widespread system or machine, not one lone guy. That's why I maintain that the best thing for this country to do as a whole is put a lot more focus on the legislative and judicial branches than the executive branch.

The executive branch so often gets reduced and simplified to one man. This country is about a LOT more than one guy sitting in the Oval Office.
Best. Political. Post. Ever.

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