Vice Presidential Debate Thread

[saden1]

When people in here say Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama or she's not really as stupid as she seems the only choice I am left with is to post video clips of her in action. I don't know why you guys are hating on me, she's making news all over the place and I'm bringing you current news.

You all want me to be that guy that sees redeeming qualities in McCain and Palin and I see none. If it were up to me I would have them evaluated by a clinical psychiatrist for intellectual disability before letting the run for hall monitor let alone for the office of presidency. Or perhaps you want me to toe the "they're all the same." You want real honesty, step up and state the obvious instead of weaseling out by saying "she wouldn't be my choice" or "he'll do the least damage." She's an insult to you.

You guys obviously see the gross negligence of John McCain and the Republican party as some sort of a joke or something that can be overlooked. This is not a fucking joke. Running this country is a serious business and people in here act like it's football game. You know what, the jokes on you and me but while I see the joke I'm afraid folks in here don't. It's a shame really. You go ahead and peddle in that "she has executive experience" bullshit and I'll continue to post those videos.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

When people in here say Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama or she's not really as stupid as she seems the only choice I am left with is to post video clips of her in action. I don't know why you guys are hating on me, she's making news all over the place and I'm bringing you current news.

Thanks for the ever so informative, not at all misleading "reading from her notes" clip.

You all want me to be that guy that sees redeeming qualities in McCain and Palin and I see none. If it were up to me I would have them evaluated by a clinical psychiatrist for intellectual disability before letting the run for hall monitor let alone for the office of presidency. Or perhaps you want me to toe the "they're all the same." You want real honesty, step up and state the obvious instead of weaseling out by saying "she wouldn't be my choice" or "he'll do the least damage." She's an insult to you.

If you were really honest, then you wouldn't say that you've lost respect for Obama (or whatever it is you said) and then do nothing further to speak to that then one FISA thread. And no one is asking you see redeeming qualities. McCain could pull you out of a burning car and you would say "I would have rather died." We get that.

You guys obviously see the gross negligence of John McCain and the Republican party as some sort of a joke or something that can be overlooked.

Way to generalize, as usual.

This not a fucking joke. Running this country is a serious business and people in here act like it's football game. You know what, the jokes on you and me but while I see the joke I'm afraid folks in here don't. It's a shame really. You go ahead and peddle in that "she has executive experience" bullshit and I'll continue to post those videos.

It is a serious business, but you have largely contributed to making a mockery of it. You've become no better than someone saying "Get ready for the draft because Bush is sending military troops to Georgia."

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thanks for the ever so informative, not at all misleading "reading from her notes" clip.

Thanks...I report, you decide.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

If you were really honest, then you wouldn't say that you've lost respect for Obama (or whatever it is you said) and then do nothing further to speak to that then one FISA thread. And no one is asking you see redeeming qualities. McCain could pull you out of a burning car and you would say "I would have rather died." We get that.

For the record I am in the tank for Obama's energy, social, and foreign policies. I believe I have state this in the past and it's no secret. Beyond his FISA vote which I saw as a political copout I have no other major problems with him and due FISA vote I stopped sending him money and I'm no longer vulunteering for him. I will say this though, his transgressions are minor compared to that of McCain. That is as far as I go. If there's any perticular issue you would like me to address feel free to ask me and I'll be happy to answer.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Way to generalize, as usual.

I'll be happy to give you a run down of all that is ill.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It is a serious business, but you have largely contributed to making a mockery of it. You've become no better than someone saying "Get ready for the draft because Bush is sending military troops to Georgia."

Oh really, I didn't realize I was making a mockery of it. Enlighten me.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by saden1

When people in here say Sarah Palin is more qualified than Obama or she's not really as stupid as she seems the only choice I am left with is to post video clips of her in action. I don't know why you guys are hating on me, she's making news all over the place and I'm bringing you current news.

You all want me to be that guy that sees redeeming qualities in McCain and Palin and I see none. If it were up to me I would have them evaluated by a clinical psychiatrist for intellectual disability before letting the run for hall monitor let alone for the office of presidency. Or perhaps you want me to toe the "they're all the same." You want real honesty, step up and state the obvious instead of weaseling out by saying "she wouldn't be my choice" or "he'll do the least damage." She's an insult to you.

You guys obviously see the gross negligence of John McCain and the Republican party as some sort of a joke or something that can be overlooked. This is not a fucking joke. Running this country is a serious business and people in here act like it's football game. You know what, the jokes on you and me but while I see the joke I'm afraid folks in here don't. It's a shame really. You go ahead and peddle in that "she has executive experience" bullshit and I'll continue to post those videos.

no offense, but this is kinda trollish/strawman again. I don't know who on here is arguing she has vast executive experience... i mean, her total population was pretty small too.

as far as the military man thing - bill clinton and george bush have been terrible for our military, and i much rather have someone with some experience there than not. obama is COMPLETELY out of touch with the military, how it works, and the people in it - at least that's my personal experience and that of those i know.

i'm really sorry powell didn't run in 2000 (i know the wife story) and i'm sorry he got played by bush like that, cause he's more qualified than both of these guys combined.

BOTH parties are pushing for legislation they can't pay for, both explain that they'll pay for it with things that don't come close to covering cost (mccain's death to earmarks and lower gov spending, obama's taxes and oversight into insurance companies). I much rather vote for someone to slash government waste/spending(farm subsidies, earmarks, etc), fix the big problems (massive research into hydrogen/new battery technology/new electric car tech, sane nuke laws, nuke plants, medicare, SS, actually holding execs and scam artists accountable (if china can do it, we should be able to).


that being said, neither one offers even half of those things. mccain has a few, obama has a couple (though i like his push for education reform, i'm not sure his plan really fixes the problem or can even be implemented due to costs - funding no child left behind would be a good start though, and i think newt spent a lot of time on the education problem, so i'd like to read on that).

neither one really has a solid economic plan that accounts for the current situation and their total policy package (obamas capital gains quotes from early on were retarded stupid though, hopefully he's fixed that), so i can't see how someone can be that hard up against mccain when neither party is offering much in the way of leadership and tough decision making. maybe that changes when they get sworn in and feel like they can finally stop pandering, but this whole process is backwards.