A few notes on Ramsey:

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Originally Posted by jdlea

I wasn't trying to say that Ramsey was going to be better than Manning. All I was trying to point out was that Ramsey accomplished a feat by throwing more Touchdowns than picks in his first year as a starter! Manning is the best QB in the league and he couldn't do it. I don't think Ramsey will be better than Manning, but I do think Ramsey will be a good quarterback. If he isn't, I think it is the fault of Steve Spurrier and Joe Gibbs. He has heart and a strong arm. He's inherited a 17 point deficit and a 13 point deficit this season and people on this site have tried to crucify him for throwing picks...well no sh#t he's gonna throw some picks because he's trying to force things to get them back into the game.

Also, it took him a while to get going because he hadn't played in months and he was a slow starter last season, too. That didn't surprise me. All in all, he did get going and didn't play too bad. He'll only get better with time.

I understand your what you're trying to say with the Manning comparison.

Here are the numbers for their first 16 starts of their careers:

Ramsey: 296/564, 52.5%, 3705 yards, 23 TD's 17 INT's

Manning: 326/575 56.7%, 3739 yards, 26 TD's 28 INT's

And just for good measure,

Carr: 233/444, 52.5%, 2592 yards, 9 TD's 15 INT's

It's pretty rare for a QB to have more TD's than INT's so early in their career, yet somehow Ramsey has been pegged for being an INT machine lately.

I'd be willing to bet that under different circumstances he wouldn't have even attempted some of the throws that have resulted in INT's for him this year. Problem is he's come in to the game with the team way behind and he's forced some things to try to make things happen.