Mark Brunell: 'The Real Take'

MTK · 11-15-2004, 07:38 PM

I'd say in his prime Brunell was a very good QB.

He didn't put up huge numbers, but he was always very accurate and he could move around and make plays on the run. Sort of a poor man's Steve Young.

Now he's not nearly as mobile and he can't find his accuracy. Thus his game is gone.

skinsfan0201 · 11-15-2004, 08:08 PM

Again I really like Brunell, but in addition to his difficulties on the field, he seems to have a mental block on top of it all.
I am glad Patrick has a chance to operate our offense.

VTSkins897 · 11-15-2004, 08:17 PM

yeh i think now everyone is relieved. hard to admit when it's gone, be it from injury or age or whatever the case. i think now we'll just have to hope we spoil some team's hopes in the close race that is the NFC. look for ramsey to improve by year's end and maybe some good improvements for the O we hope.

SUNRA · 11-15-2004, 11:08 PM

The main problem is stamina. I can only imagine how much he practiced during the week to prepare for the game only to have nothing left in the tank on game day. His passing declined after the Dallas game. He went from 325 yds to 6yds in passing in 6 games. He wears a knee brace, but still moved around well but had no arm strength.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-16-2004, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SUNRA

The main problem is stamina. I can only imagine how much he practiced during the week to prepare for the game only to have nothing left in the tank on game day. His passing declined after the Dallas game. He went from 325 yds to 6yds in passing in 6 games. He wears a knee brace, but still moved around well but had no arm strength.

What? If that was Ramsey, you'd have crucified him by now. Why this love affair with Brunell and hatred of Ramsey?

And his passing declined after the Dallas game? When was it any good other than that one QUARTER of play? He's been awful all season long. He doesn't just lack arm strength, he lacks accuracy.

MTK · 11-16-2004, 12:40 AM

I tried to stick with Brunell as long as I could but I now admit I was dead wrong. The guy is washed up. Either something is physically wrong with the guy or he's just plain lost it.

There's no defending his play any longer. He stinks, thank god Gibbs finally made the switch. I was so damn happy after the game even though we lost. To me there's finally some hope. Hope that we can start moving forward with a QB that has potential.

SmootSmack · 11-16-2004, 12:49 AM

Mark Brunell's demise reminds me of Chuck Knoblauch, Mark Wohlers, or Rick Ankiel in baseball. Suddenly they just couldn't hit anything. It's almost like a mental block.

I mean Brunell was benched after 3 games last year to make room for Leftwich, but at the time he had 484 yards passing, 2 TDs and 0 INTs. And if you look at his numbers over the past several years they're really not all that bad. Though, it is interesting to note that his YPA went down each of the last five years (though not drastically)

SmootSmack · 11-16-2004, 01:00 AM

I guess Brunell should be happy the fans here aren't doing this

SkinsRock · 11-16-2004, 02:26 PM

I know this has been dismissed already, but maybe, just maybe Brunell sucking is due to trouble with the system. Remember, he was Farve's back-up for a year, then was basically in the same system in Jax for his whole career....then last year when there was a coaching change, he got hurt and they went with the young guy. So maybe he has had trouble with the system, whether it be the terminology or just the types of plays. Just a thought....

Anyway, I am SOOO glad that Gibbs finally saw the light and put in Ramsey. Yeah, he'll probably struggle some at first, but will still be a ton better than Brunell has been, and I think by the end of the year, we'll know for sure that he is the Redskins QB for now, and for years to come.

That Guy · 11-16-2004, 02:39 PM

i saw when ramsey went in, while he was off the field, he was TALKING TO RECEIVERS, something i never really saw brunell do... coles and mccants really seem to like PR too...

SkinsRock · 11-16-2004, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

i saw when ramsey went in, while he was off the field, he was TALKING TO RECEIVERS, something i never really saw brunell do... coles and mccants really seem to like PR too...

Coles has looked VERY unhappy this year...more than just because we're losing...but really seemed to perk up when Ramsey came in.

MTK · 11-16-2004, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinsRock

Coles has looked VERY unhappy this year...more than just because we're losing...but really seemed to perk up when Ramsey came in.

Probably because he knows Ramsey can hit him in stride, Brunell was lucky to just get the ball in his general vicinity.

SmootSmack · 11-17-2004, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by smootsmack

Mark Brunell's demise reminds me of Chuck Knoblauch, Mark Wohlers, or Rick Ankiel in baseball. Suddenly they just couldn't hit anything. It's almost like a mental block.

I guess I'm not the only one that thinks this

Sheriff Gonna Getcha · 11-17-2004, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I tried to stick with Brunell as long as I could but I now admit I was dead wrong. The guy is washed up. Either something is physically wrong with the guy or he's just plain lost it.

There's no defending his play any longer. He stinks, thank god Gibbs finally made the switch. I was so damn happy after the game even though we lost. To me there's finally some hope. Hope that we can start moving forward with a QB that has potential.

I've been so wrong and you've been right on so many things (i.e. our defense wouldn't be that good because we'd get killed blitzing our LBs :smashfrea ) that it was about time I was finally right and you were wrong about something.

People had plenty of reasons to think Brunell would at some point catch on. He was so good in JAX that it is crazy to think he's been a complete bust here.

I guess he just got to that "over-the-hill" stage quicker than any of us assumed.

That Guy · 11-17-2004, 02:16 AM

maybe its that he's only ever been in one system and he's too used to throwing to jimmy smith? even an injury isn't enough to explain how bad he's been... unless someone ripped out his spinal cord.

11-15-2004, 08:08 PM	#17
skinsfan0201 Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Falls Church, VA Age: 47 Posts: 234	Brunell Again I really like Brunell, but in addition to his difficulties on the field, he seems to have a mental block on top of it all. I am glad Patrick has a chance to operate our offense.

11-15-2004, 11:08 PM	#19
SUNRA The Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,680	The main problem is stamina. I can only imagine how much he practiced during the week to prepare for the game only to have nothing left in the tank on game day. His passing declined after the Dallas game. He went from 325 yds to 6yds in passing in 6 games. He wears a knee brace, but still moved around well but had no arm strength. __________________ Redskins Member since 1970

11-16-2004, 12:49 AM	#22
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Mark Brunell's demise reminds me of Chuck Knoblauch, Mark Wohlers, or Rick Ankiel in baseball. Suddenly they just couldn't hit anything. It's almost like a mental block. I mean Brunell was benched after 3 games last year to make room for Leftwich, but at the time he had 484 yards passing, 2 TDs and 0 INTs. And if you look at his numbers over the past several years they're really not all that bad. Though, it is interesting to note that his YPA went down each of the last five years (though not drastically) __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-16-2004, 01:00 AM	#23
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	I guess Brunell should be happy the fans here aren't doing this __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

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11-15-2004, 07:38 PM	#16
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,048	I'd say in his prime Brunell was a very good QB. He didn't put up huge numbers, but he was always very accurate and he could move around and make plays on the run. Sort of a poor man's Steve Young. Now he's not nearly as mobile and he can't find his accuracy. Thus his game is gone.

11-15-2004, 08:17 PM	#18
VTSkins897 Impact Rookie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Richmond, VA Age: 43 Posts: 890	yeh i think now everyone is relieved. hard to admit when it's gone, be it from injury or age or whatever the case. i think now we'll just have to hope we spoil some team's hopes in the close race that is the NFC. look for ramsey to improve by year's end and maybe some good improvements for the O we hope.

11-16-2004, 12:40 AM	#21
MTK Hail Raiser Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 53 Posts: 100,048	I tried to stick with Brunell as long as I could but I now admit I was dead wrong. The guy is washed up. Either something is physically wrong with the guy or he's just plain lost it. There's no defending his play any longer. He stinks, thank god Gibbs finally made the switch. I was so damn happy after the game even though we lost. To me there's finally some hope. Hope that we can start moving forward with a QB that has potential.

11-16-2004, 02:26 PM	#24
SkinsRock Impact Rookie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Crofton, MD Age: 56 Posts: 907	I know this has been dismissed already, but maybe, just maybe Brunell sucking is due to trouble with the system. Remember, he was Farve's back-up for a year, then was basically in the same system in Jax for his whole career....then last year when there was a coaching change, he got hurt and they went with the young guy. So maybe he has had trouble with the system, whether it be the terminology or just the types of plays. Just a thought.... Anyway, I am SOOO glad that Gibbs finally saw the light and put in Ramsey. Yeah, he'll probably struggle some at first, but will still be a ton better than Brunell has been, and I think by the end of the year, we'll know for sure that he is the Redskins QB for now, and for years to come.

11-16-2004, 02:39 PM	#25
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	i saw when ramsey went in, while he was off the field, he was TALKING TO RECEIVERS, something i never really saw brunell do... coles and mccants really seem to like PR too...

11-17-2004, 02:16 AM	#30
That Guy Living Legend Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: VA Age: 43 Posts: 17,620	maybe its that he's only ever been in one system and he's too used to throwing to jimmy smith? even an injury isn't enough to explain how bad he's been... unless someone ripped out his spinal cord.

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