Liberal Supermajority

[saden1]

Come on, he has everything covered. He'll never lose his job or business, his insurance will never drop him and he'll never rack-up any medical bills. Even if his insurance company drops him I'm sure he'll hire a lawyer who will sort the whole matter in matters of few months. Thanks to his hard work him and his family are set for life.

Me, I thank god I work for a company that pay 100% of my health insurance. Not a dime comes out of my pockets and that's just the way I like it...and according to Obama that's the way it'll stay.

[Beemnseven]

One of the things the democrats oppose is the ability for families and individuals to deduct the cost of health care from their income taxes. So the very thing you're afraid of -- losing your job and not being able to afford insurance -- is a reality thanks to the policies of the party you apparently support. Employers can deduct the cost of insurance from their taxes, why shouldn't individuals be allowed to do the same?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

One of the things the democrats oppose is the ability for families and individuals to deduct the cost of health care from their income taxes. So the very thing you're afraid of -- losing your job and not being able to afford insurance -- is a reality thanks to the policies of the party you apparently support. Employers can deduct the cost of insurance from their taxes, why shouldn't individuals be allowed to do the same?

Umm, how much do you think you'll get back by deducting $4800 (assuming you pay $400 in health insurance a month)? Me starting to think McCain's $5000 credit sounds better and that's a god awful plan.

I know every little thing helps but come on, a 4800 deduction nets you an extra peanut at best.

[onlydarksets]

Originally Posted by saden1

Umm, how much do you think you'll get back by deducting $4800 (assuming you pay $400 in health insurance a month)? Me starting to think McCain's $5000 credit sounds better and that's a god awful plan.

I know every little thing helps but come on, a 4800 deduction nets you an extra peanut at best.

Individual coverage is a lot more expensive than that for a family. Assuming no major medical issues (which bump up premiums), $1000+/month is not unlikely. That's several thousands of dollars a year if you could deduct it.

Still, this is completely separate from universal coverage.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by saden1

Umm, how much do you think you'll get back by deducting $4800 (assuming you pay $400 in health insurance a month)? Me starting to think McCain's $5000 credit sounds better and that's a god awful plan.

I know every little thing helps but come on, a 4800 deduction nets you an extra peanut at best.

Well, if you see a $4800 deduction (or more, depending on your plan) as completely insignificant, I have no argument for you. I'll take any chance I can get that allows me to keep more of my hard-earned cash so that I can go out and find the best deal for myself.

If you like the idea that the responsibility of your health coverage should be the burden of someone else, then the current system apparently suits you fine.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

Come on, he has everything covered. He'll never lose his job or business, his insurance will never drop him and he'll never rack-up any medical bills. Even if his insurance company drops him I'm sure he'll hire a lawyer who will sort the whole matter in matters of few months. Thanks to his hard work him and his family are set for life.

Me, I thank god I work for a company that pay 100% of my health insurance. Not a dime comes out of my pockets and that's just the way I like it...and according to Obama that's the way it'll stay.

You are paying for health insurance because its a cost to your employer and is figured in when they determine what they will pa someone. So it might not directly cost you money it was figured into how much they can afford to pay you. Also if goverment takes over health insurance plan on it costing you allot in higher taxes. Again name one thing that the goverment runs efficiently? Also a health ins. co. cannot cancel your coverage over health reason.

[saden1]

You implication is that everything the government touches results ins skyrocketing cost? They are to blame for how expensive elementary education and higher education have become? The cost of books? The rising cost of teacher, police officer and fire fighter salaries? The cost of prescription dugs? The cost of surgical procedures?

Certainly they can do a better job curbing waste and fraud but I fail to see how that's a government only problem.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

You implication is that everything the government touches results ins skyrocketing cost? They are to blame for how expensive elementary education and higher education have become? The cost of books? The rising cost of teacher, police officer and fire fighter salaries? The cost of prescription dugs? The cost of surgical procedures?

Certainly they can do a better job curbing waste and fraud but I fail to see how that's a government only problem.

So you cannot think of a well run program. On education. Don't we spend more then just about any other nation per student but our kids are falling further and further behind other developed nations? The federal goverment does not pay for police or fire fighters. Goverment does restrict us from going out and buying prescription drugs from places like Canada to save money.

[onlydarksets]

Home | AfterSchool.gov | A U.S. Goverment Web Portal

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Home | AfterSchool.gov | A U.S. Goverment Web Portal

Ok a program to help the failed school system which already spends how much per student. I'm not knocking the program itself but your making my point for me.

[onlydarksets]

Gateway to VA Programs - About VA

[onlydarksets]

Administration for Children and Families Home Page

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by onlydarksets

Administration for Children and Families Home Page

I see you guys pick the easy programs that really do not cost us much money and that most people don't know much about them.

[wolfeskins]

universal healthcare, just another reason for the laziest people in the world to continue to sit on their ass and let other people take care of them.

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

universal healthcare, just another reason for the laziest people in the world to continue to sit on their ass and let other people take care of them.

I know. Damn those Veterans out on the street who got booted into the streets during the 80's and can't afford health care. I mean, Jesus, they're so damn lazy.