Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs Lions)

[SmootSmack]

Jon Jansen Let's not kid ourselves. If Samuels wasn't hurt you would have been benched by halftime (if not sooner). Those penalties, especially on the first half, are inexcusable. The senior member of our team should not be the most undisciplined. And recovering the fumble only slightly makes up for your mental gaffes

Jason Campbell As a passing QB, you had a great game. I love you how you evaded the rush on the TD pass to Moss. But you gotta watch those fumbles, there have been too many lately. Don't go all Dave Krieg on us

Antwaan Randle El Did you see what Moss did on the punt return? Yeah, just give us even 30% of that and we'd be in much better shape

[gibbsisgod]

Jansen's facemask penalty was horseshit! I don't think he touched the facemask at all.

[mredskins]

Not JC dude, that should have been Heyer he kept letting people blew by him. JC doesnt have eyes in the back of his head. Heyer looked god awful yesterday.

[MTK]

The facemask on Jansen was a horrible call, just horrible.

I can't even get mad at JC for the fumbles. The protection on the left side was pretty bad, and he more than made up for it with his overall performance.

My only gripe, we need more points.

[FRPLG]

Damn frickin' mistakes. For weeks now we've been doing this. Dumb penalties or turnovers at the worst possible times. Hell we BEAT the Rams everywhere except the score(due to mistakes). Cleveland played us a little better but Detroit looked like crap and we kept it close because of mistakes again. We're not getting outplayed in effort, gameplan or execution. We just keep making individual stupid or bad plays at the exact worst possible time. It has to stop. Focus has to be regained.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Jon Jansen Let's not kid ourselves. If Samuels wasn't hurt you would have been benched by halftime (if not sooner). Those penalties, especially on the first half, are inexcusable. The senior member of our team should not be the most undisciplined. And recovering the fumble only slightly makes up for your mental gaffes

Jason Campbell As a passing QB, you had a great game. I love you how you evaded the rush on the TD pass to Moss. But you gotta watch those fumbles, there have been too many lately. Don't go all Dave Krieg on us

Antwaan Randle El Did you see what Moss did on the punt return? Yeah, just give us even 30% of that and we'd be in much better shape

Jon Jansen wasn't the one who played bad, it was S. Heyer who got beat for much of the day. JJ's phantom facemask call was horrible. It didn't look like on on super slow mo much less normal time. Heyer had a horrible game. I guess we can cut him a little slack having to move over to LT.

[EternalEnigma21]

I will say the facemask call was total bs. That may have been a 5 yarder last year but did not deserve a call.

There is something missing in the offense. It seems like if you finish 23-28 (2 of which I know were caught out of bounds) passing and over 400 yards, you should put up 30+ points. Penalties have a lot to do with that but its been an underlying theme. We dominate yardage and time of posession but that doesn't reflect where it counts the most; on the scoreboard.

[TheMalcolmConnection]

It's not red zone worries for me, it's still the "orange zone". All these plays in opposing team's territory and we just seem to stall every time.

[Southpaw]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Damn frickin' mistakes. For weeks now we've been doing this. Dumb penalties or turnovers at the worst possible times. Hell we BEAT the Rams everywhere except the score(due to mistakes).

Agreed, and that statement has to be my biggest overall beef of the entire season. How many times has a drive been killed or points taken off the board because of stupid, unnecessary penalties this season? That seems to be the only thing that stops this team, and it's a big reason why other teams are able to occasionally gain some momentum against them.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by EternalEnigma21

I will say the facemask call was total bs. That may have been a 5 yarder last year but did not deserve a call.

There is something missing in the offense. It seems like if you finish 23-28 (2 of which I know were caught out of bounds) passing and over 400 yards, you should put up 30+ points. Penalties have a lot to do with that but its been an underlying theme. We dominate yardage and time of posession but that doesn't reflect where it counts the most; on the scoreboard.

yeah the facemask was so slight i dont even think it would have been a 5 yarder. this year the refs are told there is are no 5 yard accidental facemasks anymore, only the 15 yard personal foul variety. first half of the season there is a large outcry that facemasks have gone uncalled (and they have) so now refs are told to call more facemasks which leads to over calling it.

its just like hockey were a new rule is over called early in the season then by the end of the season it starts to even out, but that facemask on jansen was garbage.


every year they chnge/add rules it takes a while or over and under calling before it settles in. remember all the defensive illegal contact calls when that first was made a rule a few years ago? now it is hardly called.

Not to go on a ref tirade but why the hell wasnt the play whistled dead as "offsides unabetted to the qb" when that lion jump offsides on the left side and had a clear path to JC? if jc didnt avoid him and he got sacked i would have blown a gasket.

atleast the league has cut down on these 60 yard PI calls where the contact is slight and mutual. they relized just because a receiver falls down and there was some touching it doesnt deserve 60 yards and be a game changing play. those PI calls changed games, havent seen many questionable long PI calls this year.

ok tirade/rant over. sorry fellas inconsistent officiating really irks me like a home plate ump with a changing strike zone. call the strike zone consistently early in the game and the players will adjust and rely on it.

go skins!!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Jon Jansen Let's not kid ourselves. If Samuels wasn't hurt you would have been benched by halftime (if not sooner). Those penalties, especially on the first half, are inexcusable. The senior member of our team should not be the most undisciplined. And recovering the fumble only slightly makes up for your mental gaffes

Jason Campbell As a passing QB, you had a great game. I love you how you evaded the rush on the TD pass to Moss. But you gotta watch those fumbles, there have been too many lately. Don't go all Dave Krieg on us

Antwaan Randle El Did you see what Moss did on the punt return? Yeah, just give us even 30% of that and we'd be in much better shape

Freudian slip there SS? I mean, JC has been great and all, but I wouldn't say I "love" the man...

[Takeuon]

Originally Posted by TheMalcolmConnection

It's not red zone worries for me, it's still the "orange zone". All these plays in opposing team's territory and we just seem to stall every time.

Does anybody know how many penalties we had that cost us 1st downs!?? If had not committed so may penalties, we would have had the blow-out we all expected.

[Takeuon]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Freudian slip there SS? I mean, JC has been great and all, but I wouldn't say I "love" the man...

Ummm.... Jason Campbell was 23-of-28 for a season-high 328 yards with a touchdown and a career-high 127.4 passer rating!

Its ok Smootsmack....I LOVE HIM TOO!

[Ijaeger]

^Yea i think zorn gave that ref a little piece of his mind after the play wasn't blown dead when it was an obvious offsides and flags were thrown. What if that would've ended JC's game or season, or worse? Saying "sorry, my fault" makes up for a lot of things but not when it's at the expense of someone else's health, and that goes for anybody not just JC. The refs this year need a swift kick in the arse if you ask me.

p.s. I can't believe I'm complaining this much about the refs when the skins actually have a winning record, but I call it like I see it and it is what it is.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Freudian slip there SS? I mean, JC has been great and all, but I wouldn't say I "love" the man...

Actually, it was a subtle subliminal message to you big boy

yes...freudian slip. I don't want to tell JC I love him...becuase I don't know how I'll react if I don't hear it back