obama informercial gameday thread

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Not quite, but aren't you doing the same thing?

How could I be doing the same thing if you say you not doing it. LOL

[dmek25]

nothing wrong with getting " excited" about your candidate

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Quote From Saden:
3. Like him or not Obama is a genius. He basically planned ahead to make sure whatever he decded he was covered under the law.

4. He get's the majority, 97% I beileive, of his money from small donors. Why handicap yourself my limiting the reach of your message when you don't have to? Even if you look at it from the "bright side" he's saving tax payers money and he's not accountable to any big interest lobbyists.

It seems that while Obama has said we need campain finance reform he has done little to track where he receives his donations.
DUBIOUS DONATIONS - New York Post

[saden1]

He is going by the law, now I would like to see the law changed so that every donation whether it's $2 or over $200 is reported. As they say sunshine is the best disinfectant for that is ill.

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Originally Posted by saden1

He is going by the law, now I would like to see the law changed so that every donation whether it's $2 or over $200 is reported. As they say sunshine is the best disinfectant for that is ill.

Well not everyone shares your thoughts and he seems to be turning a blind eye to what he does not want to know. Why would he choose not to use the AVS system which screens donations. Instead they have their own system which makes it almost imposable to track who is giving what to his campain. Thats why all those people can give made up names and adresses and still have their donation processed. When they try it with McCain its rejected. This comes from a man who claims he wants all this reform and this is probably the reason he went back on his word for public financing. If you cannot track donations what stops someone from just giving and giving sums of money under $200 under different names?The answer is nothing. On top of that a bunch of the donations are coming from those gift credit cards which make it even tougher to trace.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well not everyone shares your thoughts and he seems to be turning a blind eye to what he does not want to know. Why would he choose not to use the AVS system which screens donations. Instead they have their own system which makes it almost imposable to track who is giving what to his campain. Thats why all those people can give made up names and adresses and still have their donation processed. When they try it with McCain its rejected. This comes from a man who claims he wants all this reform and this is probably the reason he went back on his word for public financing. If you cannot track donations what stops someone from just giving and giving sums of money under $200 under different names?The answer is nothing. On top of that a bunch of the donations are coming from those gift credit cards which make it even tougher to trace.

What's your point? That he is committing a crime? That he is cheating the system? He's playing by the standards and as I have said I don't like the standards.

Let's not even talk about McCain who has his own set of donation problems revealed inadvertently by the morons that work for him who botched a simple publicity stunt meant shame/force Obama into releasing his donor list.

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Originally Posted by saden1

What's your point? That he is committing a crime? That he is cheating the system? He's playing by the standards and as I have said I don't like the standards.

Let's not even talk about McCain who has his own set of donation problems revealed inadvertently by the morons that work for him who botched a simple publicity stunt meant shame/force Obama into releasing his donor list.

I would hope that he is not knownly breaking the law but I do feel that he is turning a blind eye and would perfer not to know. Why else would you remove from your own site security checks that the typical business or organization would use to verify the person using the credit card? Why would you not use the standard AVS system to track donations? Why would he be receiving all these donations on these gift credit cards which is hard to trace who purchased or used them? These are valid questions which will either never be answered or answered after the election. For a man who claims he wants all these reforms he seems to be running a pretty loose ship when it comes to donations.

[That Guy]

thats a pretty weak defense for obama going back on his word saden. his intent was to accept it until he thought he could actually win. just weak.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by That Guy

thats a pretty weak defense for obama going back on his word saden. his intent was to accept it until he thought he could actually win. just weak.

There's a difference between what people are accusing him of and what he said and did. Saying he's "going back on his promises/pledge/word" simply inaccurate. Do you at least agree that he left the door open to the possibility that he would decline public financing?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

There's a difference between what people are accusing him of and what he said and did. Saying he's "going back on his promises/pledge/word" simply inaccurate. Do you at least agree that he left the door open to the possibility that he would decline public financing?

He said he would have open discussions with the McCain camp on the rules but he changed his mind before the two had any meetings. So yes he did lie and I think he never had any intentions at all to use public financing.

[SmootSmack]

who have you decided to vote for saden?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

who have you decided to vote for saden?

I decided long ago that I would be voting for Obama. I can't stand McCain on the grounds of his policies and incompetence. I simply hate incompetent people and right now McCain is standing on top of the Shiny Hill of Stupidania all alone with Palin and the rest of the crew half way to the top.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by saden1

I decided long ago that I would be voting for Obama. I can't stand McCain on the grounds of his policies and incompetence. I simply hate incompetent people and right now McCain is standing on top of the Shiny Hill of Stupidania all alone with Palin and the rest of the crew half way to the top.

I thought you were off his bandwagon?

http://www.thewarpath.net/481751-post40.html

But I guess he's not the "wanker trying to get his" anymore?

http://www.thewarpath.net/455906-post1.html

And it's interesting how you can stand McCain's policies now

http://www.thewarpath.net/453637-post15.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/438209-post2.html

I understand these are just two issues, but I think it illustrates that when it comes down to it, even the brightest minds care less about where they stand on issues than their general impression of the candidates.

[mheisig]

SmootSmack, if you don't mind my asking, who will you be voting for?

I'm only curious because your responses on the political threads seem to be the most balanced, thoughtful viewpoints of any. For the life of me I still can't figure out where you're coming from, though I may have just missed an obvious post along the way.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by mheisig

SmootSmack, if you don't mind my asking, who will you be voting for?

I'm only curious because your responses on the political threads seem to be the most balanced, thoughtful viewpoints of any. For the life of me I still can't figure out where you're coming from, though I may have just missed an obvious post along the way.

You kidding? I'm a Republican. Best believe I'm voting for...Obama

http://www.thewarpath.net/492503-post27.html

http://www.thewarpath.net/474168-post539.html

I don't know that I explicitly say Obama there but I explain my concerns with voting for McCain. I also think that even if McCain were to win now, he would likely be a one-term President.

My feeling is that 8 years ago, the Democrat party said "Just wait, in 4 years we'll get back what's rightfully ours after being robbed in the 2000 election" And then in 2004, they just embarassed themselves ("led" by John Kerry) when the opportunity to return to the White House was there for the taking. The Democratic party needs a win to restore some pride and positive reputation to the party.

Meanwhile, the Republican party I believe would actually be best served by a loss that will serve as a wake-up call that people are pissed and things need to change.

I will vote for Obama, and hope he does well. But I also hope it makes the Republican party stronger down the road.