Steve Young's family up against Mormon church on Prop. 8

[DynamiteRave]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Link. I know it's not popular, but I for one am very happy to see this measure pass. No one is saying that these individuals shouldn't have the right to live as they choose, but it supports the traditional definition of marriage being between a man and a woman. I'd also like to see more legislation to prevent anyone choosing to live an "alternative lifestyle" from adopting. Again, I don't hate gays, but I don't think children should have that particular viewpoint forced on/presented to them as a valid option.

Couldn't you say the same thing about heterosexuality? And nobody is forcing views on anyone. Plenty of research has been done to show no correlation between being raised by gay parents and the child growing up to be gay.

In fact a girl I was friends with in high school, grew up with two mothers. Came out a 3.5 gpa student, heterosexual, went on to do good things with her life.

If you disagree with it from a religious standpoint, I can understand that. But just saying that being gay is an option isn't really how it works. It's not like by being around gay people you're "going to catch the gay"

That's almost like saying you don't want kids exposed to interracial couples because you don't want them to think that racially mixing is okay.

99% of the time, being gay isn't a choice. Ask anyone who's gay. Sure there are some with bad experiences that turn for solace in the same sex. But everyone that I know, and knowing myself (since I've dabbled in a few things before), I didn't ask for this. It's just the hand that gay people were dealt. I find it a bit troubling that people like to think that people consciously make a decision whether or not to love someone of the same sex or of the different sex.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Couldn't you say the same thing about heterosexuality?

Absolutely not. Without a doubt there is a natural and an unnatural side to this issue. I have no qualms about saying that.

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

And nobody is forcing views on anyone. Plenty of research has been done to show no correlation between being raised by gay parents and the child growing up to be gay.

In fact a girl I was friends with in high school, grew up with two mothers. Came out a 3.5 gpa student, heterosexual, went on to do good things with her life.

If you disagree with it from a religious standpoint, I can understand that. But just saying that being gay is an option isn't really how it works. It's not like by being around gay people you're "going to catch the gay"

I'm probably one of the least religious people on this board. But I can do nothing except vote my conscience and in this case, this is how I feel. To all of those who say that "children are born gay" I don't really know how to respond, but I do know that there are periods in the development of a child where they are vulnerable to suggestion and environmental influence. So while they may not "catch the gay" as you so eloquently put it, there's no saying that they won't be negatively impacted by the constant Pro-Gay lifestyle they will obviously be raised in.

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

99% of the time, being gay isn't a choice. Ask anyone who's gay. Sure there are some with bad experiences that turn for solace in the same sex. But everyone that I know, and knowing myself (since I've dabbled in a few things before), I didn't ask for this. It's just the hand that gay people were dealt. I find it a bit troubling that people like to think that people consciously make a decision whether or not to love someone of the same sex or of the different sex.

Again, I can't say how people are or are not born and I'm quite sure that nothing has been proven either way in this regard. I can only stay true to what I believe and this is something that has always strongly struck me as contrary to nature and therefore wrong. That's really the end all and be all of my argument, lacking in tangible data as it is. I would never attack anyone for their choices in this regard; but if someone, i.e. the government, asks me as a citizen to give my opinion on an issue that I feel impacts society, I will do so.