Steve Young's family up against Mormon church on Prop. 8

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

I'm not a lawyer by any stretch of the imagination, but my understanding is that Proposition 8's purpose was to define marriage in an unambiguous way so as to prevent the liberal interpretation of the law. No one made anything "illegal." It's entirely possible that my understanding is less than perfect. SSG could no doubt explain it in clear terms.



You are twisting my words, I guess for the purpose of conversation I'll believe it is an accident. I said the reason for there being two distinct sexes and their associated attraction to one another is procreation. There is no biological necessity associated with homosexuality that I know of, other than population reduction. (Maybe this could be the next green initiative, "Save the planet, Get Gay!)

What prop 8 did was make it illegal for the state government to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. It essentially denies them the legal benefits of marriage.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by saden1

What prop 8 did was make it illegal for the state government to issue marriage licenses to gay couples. It essentially denies them the legal benefits of marriage.

So no one gets thrown in jail? Hmmmmm, could've sworn I said something to that effect.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

So no one gets thrown in jail? Hmmmmm, could've sworn I said something to that effect.

Do you, or do you not believe gay marriage should be illegal?

If you think it should be legal, then I officially take back my statement.

But if you do think it should be illegal, then you have to be prepared to support the idea that people should be thrown in jail if they disobey the law. Otherwise, what's the purpose of laws?

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Do you, or do you not believe gay marriage should be illegal?

If you think it should be legal, then I officially take back my statement.

But if you do think it should be illegal, then you have to be prepared to support the idea that people should be thrown in jail if they disobey the law. Otherwise, what's the purpose of laws?

In the scenario you present, the ones who would be breaking the law are those that are issuing the marriage licenses, i.e. government officials who are making a clear choice to disobey the laws they are sworn to obey. So in that instance, the officials would deserve some sort of punishment, what sort I have no desire to quantify.

Originally Posted by saden1

Oh, people can go jail. If a court clerk issues a marriage license to a gay couple the to jail.

see above.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

So no one gets thrown in jail? Hmmmmm, could've sworn I said something to that effect.

Oh, people can go jail. If a court clerk issues a marriage license to a gay couple they to jail.