Redskins vs. Cowboys Gameday thread

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Campbell and our recievers were playing great earlier, but in both of the last two games, they haven't produced in the way we need them to against either Pittsburgh or Dallas.

And the pass protection is totally abysmal. It's getting to the point where if you load up the box and take away the run against the Redskins, there's simply no time to get Moss behind the defense.

Look, either Zorn's serious about fixing this protection and we can get to 11 or 12 wins, or he's not serious about it, we limp to 10 wins and we're at the mercy of the tiebreaker system. This team does A LOT of things very well, but a few things it absolutely can't do are killing the offense.

Don't forget that Randle El's injury came at the worst possible time. Devin Thomas isn't an NFL receiver, James Thrash is very close to not being an NFL receiver, and there's just nothing behind them. We're a very talented team with major flaws. The flaws can absolutely be corrected, but I no longer think the offensive issues will correct themselves. We need to remove the players who just can't play at this level (Casey Rabach, Randy Thomas, Devin Thomas) from the offensive gameplan. Only then can the Redskins allow Portis, Campbell, Moss, and Cooley to flourish.

Well who do you suggest we bring in for Rabach, RT and DT? Once the season starts there really isn't much you can do. The back ups are back ups for a reason. The personel changes can't be made until the off season.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Well who do you suggest we bring in for Rabach, RT and DT? Once the season starts there really isn't much you can do. The back ups are back ups for a reason. The personel changes can't be made until the off season.

Yep. Pretty much the problem here.

If you, or I, or Smootsmack were running this team, we don't go into the season with James Thrash and two rookies behind the two starters. We also don't ignore Rabach's weakness all offseason.

I think the front office has done a pretty good job getting us to 6-4 in a transition year, but there were easy solutions (cough, DJ Hackett) available that we just ignored in the offseason. And now were here. Not 8-2 or 7-3, but 6-4.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Yep. Pretty much the problem here.

Exactly! Zorn knows that we have a serious problem in pass-pro and it's probably going to be like that the rest of the season. Now the question is: can Zorn adjust his playcalling to compensate for the horrible pass protection?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Exactly! Zorn knows that we have a serious problem in pass-pro and it's probably going to be like that the rest of the season. Now the question is: can Zorn adjust his playcalling to compensate for the horrible pass protection?

Yeah, the way you adjust for poor pass protection is to throw shorter, quicker passing routes -- which is exactly what everyone is complaining about. So until they learn how to pass block, Zorn will have to get the ball out of Jason Campbell's hands as quickly as possible. And that means no deep ball.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, the way you adjust for poor pass protection is to throw shorter, quicker passing routes -- which is exactly what everyone is complaining about. So until they learn how to pass block, Zorn will have to get the ball out of Jason Campbell's hands as quickly as possible. And that means no deep ball.

What he said.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, the way you adjust for poor pass protection is to throw shorter, quicker passing routes -- which is exactly what everyone is complaining about. So until they learn how to pass block, Zorn will have to get the ball out of Jason Campbell's hands as quickly as possible. And that means no deep ball.

It's kind of a catch-22 isn't it? We can't throw deep because of the pass rush and they play closer to the line because we don't throw deep. On the play after Moss dropped the long ball, I think we got good yardage on the next play if I remember right. Even if we don't complete the deep pass I think we at least need to show it.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Yeah, the way you adjust for poor pass protection is to throw shorter, quicker passing routes -- which is exactly what everyone is complaining about. So until they learn how to pass block, Zorn will have to get the ball out of Jason Campbell's hands as quickly as possible. And that means no deep ball.

I agree Beemy, the roll out stuff to the weak side has to be cut out, plus those lateral screen type passes. God JC almost was picked twice with those quicky horizontal screen passes. Coach needs to throw out plays altogether or tweak the WCO if it is going to work with this bunch. I can't just believe our veteran line all of a sudden sucks eggs. I think the system has some glitches in it.

[JWsleep]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Exactly! Zorn knows that we have a serious problem in pass-pro and it's probably going to be like that the rest of the season. Now the question is: can Zorn adjust his playcalling to compensate for the horrible pass protection?

In response to a question about why we threw short so much, Zorn said he had to adjust to what he COULD run, given the pass pro problems. He also said they'll consider all their schemes and play calling to see what might be fixable. The high number of screens and quick passes to the WRs was a result of the poor pass pro tonight.