Redskins Offense: What's the Problem?

[BrennanBeliever]

Dig route, curl route, slant, flanker screen. How many times are we going to be inundated with these same dysfunctional offencive(the misspelling is intended) philosophies. IT DOES NOT WORK. When Spurrier did it, it didn't work, the same with Turner and Gibbs. The conservative game should only be played with a substantial lead and its primary function is to eat clock, slow the pace of the game, and allow limited touches for your opponent. You don't win with it as the genesis for your weekly gameplan. Now Zorn may exclaim in his press conferences that he intends to stretch the feild and take some shots, but until I see as a chess move and not out of sheer desperation, I'm not buying.

Granted the offensive line are missing blitz blocking assignments and are ripidly eroding when they fall back into pass pro, but we aren't the only team in the nfl that embodies this malignant malfunction. Take the Steelers for example. Their line breaks down all the time but Big Ben still finds a way to make plays, down feild. Campbell just looks more flustered as the season progresses, and this is the time when the great ones normally find their rhythm, and stride. I don't want hear, "Its his first season in this system, be patient he'll come around." Intangibles don't blossom out of the clear blue, they are ingrained and inherent and don't see them.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

Dig route, curl route, slant, flanker screen. How many times are we going to be inundated with these same dysfunctional offencive(the misspelling is intended) philosophies. IT DOES NOT WORK. When Spurrier did it, it didn't work, the same with Turner and Gibbs. The conservative game should only be played with a substantial lead and its primary function is to eat clock, slow the pace of the game, and allow limited touches for your opponent. You don't win with it as the genesis for your weekly gameplan. Now Zorn may exclaim in his press conferences that he intends to stretch the feild and take some shots, but until I see as a chess move and not out of sheer desperation, I'm not buying.

Granted the offensive line are missing blitz blocking assignments and are ripidly eroding when they fall back into pass pro, but we aren't the only team in the nfl that embodies this malignant malfunction. Take the Steelers for example. Their line breaks down all the time but Big Ben still finds a way to make plays, down feild. Campbell just looks more flustered as the season progresses, and this is the time when the great ones normally find their rhythm, and stride. I don't want hear, "Its his first season in this system, be patient he'll come around." Intangibles don't blossom out of the clear blue, they are ingrained and inherent and don't see them.

So are saying Big Ben hasn't look flustered??? Big Ben has hold the ball way longer then JC. JC hasn't made plays under pressure??? Big Ben has had 10 TDs 11 int, and 32 sacks. JC has had 9 TDs, 3 int, and 26 sacks. Steelers pass offense is rank 18 where as the skins is ranked 20. Technically he hasn't done much better than JC this year.

[BrennanBeliever]

Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

So are saying Big Ben hasn't look flustered??? Big Ben has hold the ball way longer then JC. JC hasn't made plays under pressure??? Big Ben has had 10 TDs 11 int, and 32 sacks. JC has had 9 TDs, 3 int, and 26 sacks. Steelers pass offense is rank 18 where as the skins is ranked 20. Technically he hasn't done much better than JC this year.

I'm not saying that Big Ben has had a flawless season by any scope of the imagination but what I am contending is that he looks more poised in the face of heavy pressure. He looks through the rush and is still finding Holmes running out routes and and Ward over the middle for 10 to 12 yard chunks with relative accuracy. Would I rather have Ben than JC at this point in the season. Absolutely. The game isn't played in the stat column.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

I'm not saying that Big Ben has had a flawless season by any scope of the imagination but what I am contending is that he looks more poised in the face of heavy pressure. He looks through the rush and is still finding Holmes running out routes and and Ward over the middle for 10 to 12 yard chunks with relative accuracy. Would I rather have Ben than JC at this point in the season. Absolutely. The game isn't played in the stat column.

Ben is phenominal outside of the pocket, but he doesn't see the field nearly as well as he needs to inside of it. He's like the reverse Tom Brady.

[SouperMeister]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Ben is phenominal outside of the pocket, but he doesn't see the field nearly as well as he needs to inside of it. He's like the reverse Tom Brady.

Great analogy GTripp. Roethlisberger looked lost in the pocket when Blache threw blitzes at him almost every play. The difference with Leftwich was glaring. Byron made his reads and fired in rhythm while the blitz distracted Ben into trying to buy time with his mobility.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by BrennanBeliever

I'm not saying that Big Ben has had a flawless season by any scope of the imagination but what I am contending is that he looks more poised in the face of heavy pressure. He looks through the rush and is still finding Holmes running out routes and and Ward over the middle for 10 to 12 yard chunks with relative accuracy. Would I rather have Ben than JC at this point in the season. Absolutely. The game isn't played in the stat column.

I know the game isn't played in the stat column. My point was Big Ben isn't haven't a good season either. It hard to really compared Big Ben's poise to JC's poise when Ben has been playing longer, has a ring, and has Ward and Holmes as receivers. If JC had Holmes playing along side Moss you wouldn't even doubt JC's abiliity. Big Ben does move around a little better than JC, but JC seems to get rid of the ball a little quicker the Ben this year. Do you really think Big Ben would have done better than JC against a defense that is #1 against the pass and rushing the QB??? Harrison & Co. even had a veteran QB like McNabb looking like a rookie.