What's Wrong with the Redskins?

[47FAN]

thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i love the skins and pick the skins every week because they are my team. always have been and always will be and happy to say it

[skinsfan1987]

Whenever a team is 3-4 at home, your chances of getting into the playoffs are not very good, but again we have a favorable schedule. Next week's game at Baltimore, will probably lose, but after that, we play the Bengals,eagles, and 49ers, all winnable games. And let just face it, no one expected us to be 7-5 at this point anyway based on the preseason predictions by experts. I expected the 1st team O-Line to get exposed because they are old, everyone is their 30s, and we do need to do an overhaul on the O-Line during the offseason.

In terms of making the playoffs, Dallas has a brutal schedule, and the NFC south will beat up on each other the rest of the way. Despite all of our issues with the O-Line and our offense, we can still make the playoffs with a 10-6 or 9-7 record, not bad for a 1st year head coach.

[47FAN]

coach blache an f? 3rd in total defense, i dont agree.

[HoosForCooley]

The problem is totally with our offensive and defensive lines point blank. Our offensive line does not provide any support for Campbell. The defense of the other team just tees up on us. Without offensive line support the receivers can not make plays because we take it for granted that they are standing at the point where they need to be instead of running to that position. the D line is also one of the worst we have had in years. Eli had all day due to the lack of the blitz. A QB as good as Eli will pick you apart all day. If you can't cover which the Redskins can't then you need to blitz and we do not blitz.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

I am absolutely convinced that if we get better pass protection and Zorn "unleashes" Campbell, the guy will be a top 5 QB. Until we get better protection and start going deeper more often, we will continue to struggle on offense, regardless of who is under center. But, if people want to believe that all our woes lie in one man.....more power to them.

[47FAN]

whole new offense next year. zorn came in here and didnt want to change much because we made the playoffs last year and he figured that was the best bet. now he knows. we have alot of guys that are too old and too slow not saying they arent good or average but you dont win championships with just average

[A10sROCK]

Originally Posted by 47FAN

whole new offense next year. zorn came in here and didnt want to change much because we made the playoffs last year and he figured that was the best bet. now he knows. we have alot of guys that are too old and too slow not saying they arent good or average but you dont win championships with just average

I think Zorn is honest with himself and will give up the OC duties next year. I 'hope' the team will use draft picks and modest FA acquisitions to rebuild the OL. What we're all hoping is that with these changes Campbell hits his max potential and starts scoring some points, keeps turnovers down and wins some games. If not, the team will start someone else to see if they have the juice.

[Twilbert07]

At the same point in his career last year as JC is this year, Eli Manning won a Super Bowl. Eli is only one year ahead of Campbell, but he is far superior. And as far as the argument that Campbell is in a new system, look at rookie Matt Ryan, who is way ahead of Campbell from a development standpoint in his first year in a new system and new league. Campbell is serviceable, but he does not look like a great QB in the making. He needs to show more leadership on the field.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

At the same point in his career last year as JC is this year, Eli Manning won a Super Bowl. Eli is only one year ahead of Campbell, but he is far superior. And as far as the argument that Campbell is in a new system, look at rookie Matt Ryan, who is way ahead of Campbell from a development standpoint in his first year in a new system and new league. Campbell is serviceable, but he does not look like a great QB in the making. He needs to show more leadership on the field.

1. Eli has been in the same offense since his rookie year
2. Eli has better weapons.
3. Eli has a better o-line.

I agree with you about Ryan. He seems to be a little ahead of JC right now. I'm not sure about way ahead. But you could argue he's ahead of JC.

[Twilbert07]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

1. Eli has been in the same offense since his rookie year
2. Eli has better weapons.
3. Eli has a better o-line.

I agree with you about Ryan. He seems to be a little ahead of JC right now. I'm not sure about way ahead. But you could argue he's ahead of JC.

Eli does benefit from being in the same offense. As far as weapons, you're right - we have no No. 2 receiver. Randle-El is a No. 3, and our rookies are struggling. Still, Fox showed a stat about JC's QB rating in November for his career. His play falls off quickly oin the second half of the year. Campbell should be getting better, not regressing.

[jgalecpa]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I agree with you about Ryan. He seems to be a little ahead of JC right now. I'm not sure about way ahead. But you could argue he's ahead of JC.

I'm afraid JC is regressing to his mean QB rating of around 70.

He currently has a 2008 QB rating of 87.8, but that is skewed by some really good games early in the year. The last four games is average qb rating is only 69.25.

Ryan on the other hand has a current qb rating of 91.2, not greatly different from JC's.

HOWEVER, the last four games Ryan's average rating is 107, with none lower than 70.

He is improving as the year goes on, but JC is not.

Blame the line,etc. But as Joe Friday said, those are the facts.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by jgalecpa

I'm afraid JC is regressing to his mean QB rating of around 70.

He currently has a 2008 QB rating of 87.8, but that is skewed by some really good games early in the year. The last four games is average qb rating is only 69.25.

Blame the line,etc. But as Joe Friday said, those are the facts.

You do realize that in the past three games where Jason had a QB rating under 85, he faced the Cowboys' 8th ranked defense, New York's 3rd ranked defense and the Steelers' 1st ranked defense? Meanwhile, Matt Ryan faced juggernaut defenses like New Orleans' 21st ranked defense, Denver's 27th ranked defense and San Diego's 28th ranked defense. Those too, are the facts.

I realize that Jason has his flaws. However, I also realize that Jason is a decent quarterback and it's absolutely unfair to judge a guy based on a 4 game streak. But, as a Redskins fan, I realize it's par for the course to do so with a Washington QB. We've done it since Gus was backing up Shuler and we'll be doing it until we have the next Peyton Manning. Compared to most Redskins fans, Dan Snyder has the patience of Buddha himself.

[A10sROCK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

You do realize that in the past three games where Jason had a QB rating under 85, he faced the Cowboys' 8th ranked defense, New York's 3rd ranked defense and the Steelers' 1st ranked defense? Meanwhile, Matt Ryan faced juggernaut defenses like New Orleans' 21st ranked defense, Denver's 27th ranked defense and San Diego's 28th ranked defense. Those too, are the facts.

I realize that Jason has his flaws. However, I also realize that Jason is a decent quarterback and it's absolutely unfair to judge a guy based on a 4 game streak. But, as a Redskins fan, I realize it's par for the course to do so with a Washington QB. We've done it since Gus was backing up Shuler and we'll be doing it until we have the next Peyton Manning. Compared to most Redskins fans, Dan Snyder has the patience of Buddha himself.

Good points but Gus got around 27 games, same with Shuler. JC is a better QB than those two and on game #33. By this time next season he will be on game # 47 (if my math is right). Most NFL QB's get under 30 games to prove themselves or not. He's getting more than enough time to win and improve himself. Yet, some still want to blame eveyone else, including Danny Snyder.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

At the same point in his career last year as JC is this year, Eli Manning won a Super Bowl. Eli is only one year ahead of Campbell, but he is far superior. And as far as the argument that Campbell is in a new system, look at rookie Matt Ryan, who is way ahead of Campbell from a development standpoint in his first year in a new system and new league. Campbell is serviceable, but he does not look like a great QB in the making. He needs to show more leadership on the field.

You are also forgetting this same time last year that NYG fans wanted to run Eli out of NY especially after the infamous Minnesota game. He was leading the leagues in fumbles and interceptions last season. I wouldn't say Eli is light years ahead of JC. Eli was an mediocre QB on a great team that why he was able to win a superbowl and consistently take the Giants to the playoffs. Statistically JC is way ahead of Manning if your trying to compare Manning of last year to JC this year.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

You are also forgetting this same time last year that NYG fans wanted to run Eli out of NY especially after the infamous Minnesota game. He was leading the leagues in fumbles and interceptions last season. I wouldn't say Eli is light years ahead of JC. Eli was an mediocre QB on a great team that why he was able to win a superbowl and consistently take the Giants to the playoffs. Statistically JC is way ahead of Manning if your trying to compare Manning of last year to JC this year.

not to make excuses, but Eli has also had the same offensive coordinator, and the same offense, his entire time in the league