JC is not what I thought part two

[SirClintonPortis]

Ravens are ranked 27th in the leauge in passing. Flacco has had very few 200+ yard games in passing. Maybe they have had shorter fields to go, but they also faced a bunch of weak teams...

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Ravens are ranked 27th in the leauge in passing. Flacco has had very few 200+ yard games in passing. Maybe they have had shorter fields to go, but they also faced a bunch of weak teams...

He is making passes when he needs to and he is a rookie getting better every week. With Flacco 8-4 without 6-10.

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

He is making passes when he needs to and he is a rookie getting better every week. With Flacco 8-4 without 6-10.

livin in bmore ive watched alot of the ravens and this year they have been healthier at the cb than last year (they still are dinged up alot) and rookie coach harbaugh isnt asking flacco to win games, instead hes asking him to manage games by putting him in managebale situations much like the pats did with cassel early on. so far flacco has responded well and seems to have a bright future.

plus their D is still a wrecking ball of a unit even with gregg out.

when we play them it will be a great game.

go skins!!

[sportscurmudgeon]

Matty:

I agree that the Skins should not take that trade - - but for those who think Campbell is not up to the job, this would be a potential "quick fix".

And we do know that the Skins have been known to jump at the "quick fix" option in the past...

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Ravens are ranked 27th in the leauge in passing. Flacco has had very few 200+ yard games in passing. Maybe they have had shorter fields to go, but they also faced a bunch of weak teams...

Well, 4th year Campbell is significantly better than Rookie Flacco, but Flacco certainly isn't struggling...I mean he's having the best year of any QB in his division. And I think you have to credit the offense around him for that.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, 4th year Campbell is significantly better than Rookie Flacco, but Flacco certainly isn't struggling...I mean he's having the best year of any QB in his division. And I think you have to credit the offense around him for that.

The offense around him has been the nfl worst, since the inception of the Ravens.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The offense around him has been the nfl worst, since the inception of the Ravens.

Right, but this isn't 2002. Clayton/Mason are a very competent WR duo, and the Ravens have a strong, retooled OL.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Right, but this isn't 2002. Clayton/Mason are a very competent WR duo, and the Ravens have a strong, retooled OL.

The Moss-Randle El duo were supposed to be just as lethal as those two are. I don't think a retooled OL alone is going to make JC a great QB and I do not want to wait for another 2-3 seasons for them to retool the OL only to find JC still is inadequate. Evaluate JC the rest of the way then the FO has to make a decision about him and they should open the QB position for competition in the preseason. Either the kid has it or he doesn't. Patrick Ramsey didn't get half the sympathy this kid gets.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

The Moss-Randle El duo were supposed to be just as lethal as those two are. I don't think a retooled OL alone is going to make JC a great QB and I do not want to wait for another 2-3 seasons for them to retool the OL only to find JC still is inadequate. Evaluate JC the rest of the way then the FO has to make a decision about him and they should open the QB position for competition in the preseason. Either the kid has it or he doesn't. Patrick Ramsey didn't get half the sympathy this kid gets.

I agree.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

The Moss-Randle El duo were supposed to be just as lethal as those two are. I don't think a retooled OL alone is going to make JC a great QB and I do not want to wait for another 2-3 seasons for them to retool the OL only to find JC still is inadequate. Evaluate JC the rest of the way then the FO has to make a decision about him and they should open the QB position for competition in the preseason. Either the kid has it or he doesn't. Patrick Ramsey didn't get half the sympathy this kid gets.

No, he's definitely got it. Most of us have already seen it. Others, I'm not sure what type of team success measure you're waiting for, but I'm guessing that it doesn't actually reflect on Campbell as a player.

We are trying to find ways to improve his productivity. Giving him more time would be one. Allowing his young receivers to develop another.

I'm not even sure why rebuilding the OL would be a bad thing even if they QB was a problem.

Anyway, Randle El is thriving in his 3-5 targets a game role in the offense. Cooley is having a good season. Moss has been explosive. Campbell has fueled all three of these things. I think dependability is an issue that Moss cannot fix. Obviously someone needs to step up and help Campbell, and I'm confident that someone will soon, in the same way that Mason has stepped up and helped out Flacco.

I'm guessing that Campbell-Moss though is never going to be an elite passing combination. I have optimism that Campbell-Kelly will be.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Well, 4th year Campbell is significantly better than Rookie Flacco, but Flacco certainly isn't struggling...I mean he's having the best year of any QB in his division. And I think you have to credit the offense around him for that.

Huh? Mason is no Santana Moss. The running backs have been injured all season and if they weren't they're no Portis. So who in the hell he has for help. Last time i checked Ray Lewis and Reed dont play offense.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Huh? Mason is no Santana Moss. The running backs have been injured all season and if they weren't they're no Portis. So who in the hell he has for help. Last time i checked Ray Lewis and Reed dont play offense.

Mason is more reliable than Santana Moss, and in our ball control offense, he would be more valuable to us. Clayton is the better Moss comparison anyway, as he's just as explosive, but has enjoyed a better season IMO.