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Old 12-03-2008, 07:53 PM   #1
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Re: There's No Quarterback Controversy

Honestly I do not think Campbell has been the issue this year so IMHO there is no QB controversy but I guess you have to have everyone in DC.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:05 PM   #2
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Jason seems like a very good person & I hope he can become a great QB but when things go bad the 1st two to take the blame will be him & Zorn. I just hope both can help the Skins make a run the next five weeks.
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Old 12-03-2008, 11:46 PM   #3
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good point. I just wish some of the numskulls on this site understood that...
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Old 12-08-2008, 01:47 PM   #4
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good point. I just wish some of the numskulls on this site understood that...
hahaha. forget about that.
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Old 12-08-2008, 08:56 AM   #5
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ICE, ICE, BABY: Atlanta rookie quarterback Matt Ryan has been given the nickname "Matty Ice" because of how well he's played under pressure. He's helped the Falcons have an 8-4 record, and if the playoffs started today, they would earn a wild-card spot.

An example of Ryan's performance under pressure can be found in how many times he's been blitzed and how he's performed in those situations. According to STATS, opponents have blitzed Ryan 91 times, and he's completed 56 passes, or 61.5 percent against blitzes. He's thrown for 729 yards and three touchdowns. He's been intercepted three times and sacked twice. His rating is 84.0 when he's been blitzed.

I wonder what Jasons STATS are in this situation?
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:04 AM   #6
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ICE, ICE, BABY: Atlanta rookie quarterback Matt Ryan has been given the nickname "Matty Ice" because of how well he's played under pressure. He's helped the Falcons have an 8-4 record, and if the playoffs started today, they would earn a wild-card spot.

An example of Ryan's performance under pressure can be found in how many times he's been blitzed and how he's performed in those situations. According to STATS, opponents have blitzed Ryan 91 times, and he's completed 56 passes, or 61.5 percent against blitzes. He's thrown for 729 yards and three touchdowns. He's been intercepted three times and sacked twice. His rating is 84.0 when he's been blitzed.

I wonder what Jasons STATS are in this situation?
Can't you get them from the same source you got Ryan's?
(Dallas would be #6 not Atlanta due to head to head tie-break)
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:10 AM   #7
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Can't you get them from the same source you got Ryan's?
(Dallas would be #6 not Atlanta due to head to head tie-break)
i got it from an article,dont know where to get the stats
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Old 12-08-2008, 11:25 AM   #8
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i got it from an article,dont know where to get the stats
k i was just curious too
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I wonder if JC has an OLINE in this situation....
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:26 AM   #10
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Campbell is 2-6 in December games. Late-season swoons are just par for the course for him. We better get used to it if he's our guy.
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Campbell is 2-6 in December games. Late-season swoons are just par for the course for him. We better get used to it if he's our guy.
So, basically, 1.5 years equal a trend? Most of those losses came during the 2006 season when we were an awful team with the league's worst defense. Come on.
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So, basically, 1.5 years equal a trend? Most of those losses came during the 2006 season when we were an awful team with the league's worst defense. Come on.
Maybe you're right. I think in this win-now league, 1.5 years does say something, though. Last year when JC went out, the Skins were 5-7. Living in Atlanta, I see a rookie kicking ass, and last night I saw someone from Blue Hen U outplay our guy. I'm frustrated and not happy about averaging 8 or 9 points/game against these playoff teams. Campbell might be good in the long run, but he seems to be taking steps backward right now.
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:29 PM   #13
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Maybe you're right. I think in this win-now league, 1.5 years does say something, though. Last year when JC went out, the Skins were 5-7. Living in Atlanta, I see a rookie kicking ass, and last night I saw someone from Blue Hen U outplay our guy. I'm frustrated and not happy about averaging 8 or 9 points/game against these playoff teams. Campbell might be good in the long run, but he seems to be taking steps backward right now.
Be careful if you are going to justify anything by saying it's a win now league. Because that doesn't actually mean anything. 31 teams are going to not win "now", and I wouldn't recommend to them all that they start rebuilding.

Matt Ryan has been the surprise of the year, especially because the guy I saw at BC didn't seem like a can't miss prospect. But I think Atlanta's offense is what you get when you combine an efficient running game with an already established receiving corps, and then allow the QB and the young OL to develop in a fertile environment. I don't think Ryan is Manning-type special, but he does understand the pro game, and as rare as it is for a No. 3 overall QB to come into a great offense from day one, credit the Falcons. That offense was something they started building under Rich McKay, and continued to do with Thomas Dimitroff with the signing of Michael Turner. Joey Harrington and Chris Redman BOTH had career years last year.

We have been trying to do the same thing, but chances are: if you think you need a quarterback, you probably don't have a very good offense.

I would question which game you were watching if you thought Flacco outplayed Campbell though.
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Old 12-08-2008, 10:43 AM   #14
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There is something to be said about an offensive line giving up zero sacks, and excellent play calling down the stretch. Landry snuck up to the line on Flacco's TD pass to Mason (which was underthrown) and Rogers got burned worst than toast on the uber-dark setting. Other than that throw and his first throw to Mason that set up McClain's TD run, Flacco didn't do much last night. Their run offense (which went nowhere until their last drive of the game, when they gave the ball to McClain to pound) and their defense carried them once again.

Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco...their coordinators do not expect much from them, so they keep a simple offense installed to minimize any risks that these guys have to take. Their successes can be linked to their team's run offense (Atlanta #2 run offense, Baltimore #4). Matt Ryan also has several veterans he's throwing to, which helps in his development.

During this last 5 games, Portis has 316 yards rushing (averaging 63/game, which is inflated because of the success he had against Seattle) and no TDs. Defenses have lined up to stop Portis, but at the same time, the Skins pass blocking has been atrocious (18 sacks in 5 games, 16 on the previous 8), giving Campbell virtually no time to execute the offense.

I think Campbell's steps "backward" lie in the fact that he can't trust his offensive line or his receivers right now. Both have continued to let him down over the last 5 weeks. Campbell showed that he is a quality QB who can effectively run this offense, he needs his support personnel to step up and help him out.
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Old 12-08-2008, 02:08 PM   #15
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There is something to be said about an offensive line giving up zero sacks, and excellent play calling down the stretch. Landry snuck up to the line on Flacco's TD pass to Mason (which was underthrown) and Rogers got burned worst than toast on the uber-dark setting. Other than that throw and his first throw to Mason that set up McClain's TD run, Flacco didn't do much last night. Their run offense (which went nowhere until their last drive of the game, when they gave the ball to McClain to pound) and their defense carried them once again.

Guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco...their coordinators do not expect much from them, so they keep a simple offense installed to minimize any risks that these guys have to take. Their successes can be linked to their team's run offense (Atlanta #2 run offense, Baltimore #4). Matt Ryan also has several veterans he's throwing to, which helps in his development.

During this last 5 games, Portis has 316 yards rushing (averaging 63/game, which is inflated because of the success he had against Seattle) and no TDs. Defenses have lined up to stop Portis, but at the same time, the Skins pass blocking has been atrocious (18 sacks in 5 games, 16 on the previous 8), giving Campbell virtually no time to execute the offense.

I think Campbell's steps "backward" lie in the fact that he can't trust his offensive line or his receivers right now. Both have continued to let him down over the last 5 weeks. Campbell showed that he is a quality QB who can effectively run this offense, he needs his support personnel to step up and help him out.
I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.
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